IMO = EGO
On 9/14/2013 5:51 AM, Bill! wrote:
Merle,
The most basic and most problematic intellectual characteristic is the
delusion of duality. That's basically believing there is a 'you' that
is separate and distinct from 'everything else'. IMO everything else
follows from there such as logic, reason, judgment, categorization,
time, etc...
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> Â bill...which intellectual characteristics?..merle
>
>
> Â
> KG,
>
> That's why I said "seems to be". I have know way of really knowing.
In fact I do think some animals share some of our intellectual
characteristics. And maybe in that respect also share some of our
delusions.
>
> ...Bill!
>
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristopher Grey <kris@> wrote:
> >
> > Key words there Bill!: "... seem to be..."
> >
> > Ordinary mind, such a seemly business. Always becoming (appearing as)
> > this or that to itself, for itself, of itself. Ordinary mind
> > distinguishes itself by caring for such distinctions, and thus
becoming
> > self-deluded by continually grasping and rejecting them.
> >
> > KG
> >
> >
> > On 9/14/2013 1:14 AM, Bill! wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > I think you could also say that humans are the only beings that
> > > actually need to make an effort to become "self-realised by
following
> > > the Dharma". All other sentient beings of which I know seem to be
> > > already doing that.
> > >
> > > ...Bill!
> > >
> > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, uerusuboyo@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Merle,<br/><br/>I'm not "attempting" to say anything. I wrote
it in
> > > black and white and clearly: humans are in a unique position to
become
> > > self-realised by following the Dharma (law of reality). You
added the
> > > destructive bit.<br/><br/>Mike<br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo!
Mail for
> > > iPad
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>