On Oct 18, 2007, at 13:26, Richard Elling wrote: > > Yes. It is true that ZFS redefines the meaning of available space. > But > most people like compression, snapshots, clones, and the pooling > concept. > It may just be that you want zfs list instead, df is old-school :-)
exactly - i'm not complaining .. just understanding the confusion I don't think anticipate deprecating df in favor of "zfs list", but df_zfs or additonal flags to df might be helpful .. perhaps a pool option, and some sort of easy visual to say that the avail number you're looking at is shared .. perhaps something like this (sorted output would be nice too by default): # df -F zfs -xh Filesystem size used resv avail capacity Mounted on ... log-pool (457G) 120M --- (447G) 1% /log-pool log-pool/butterfinger (457G) 24K 10G (457G) 1% /log-pool/ butterfinger log-pool/swim [50G] 24K --- [50G] 1% /log-pool/swim thumper-pool (16T) 1.1T --- (13T) 8% /thumper-pool thumper-pool/home (16T) 46K --- (13T) 1% /thumper- pool/home essentially just some way to tell at a glance that the capacity is either (shared) or a [quota] > OTOH, df does have a notion of file system specific options. It > might be > useful to have a df_zfs option which would effectively show the zfs > list-like > data. yeah - i'm thinking it might be helpful to see reserved capacity here by default, or at least have a switch for it instead of having to alias "zfs list -o name,used,reservation,available,refer,mountpoint" .. i'm always thrown at first glance by that one: NAME USED RESERV AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT log-pool 10.1G none 447G 120M /log-pool log-pool/butterfinger 24.5K 10G 457G 24.5K /log-pool/ butterfinger log-pool/swim 24.5K none 50.0G 24.5K /log-pool/swim thumper-pool 2.63T none 12.9T 1.11T /thumper-pool thumper-pool/home 163G none 12.9T 45.7K /thumper-pool/home > BTW, airlines also overprovision seats, which is why you might > sometimes > get bumped. Hotels do this as well. my point as well - meaning you're never sure if you're going to get a seat especially if there's a rush .. sorry looking back it's kind of a bad analogy --- .je _______________________________________________ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss