Ive been on 313 for 1 day, I first subbed in about 94, but left after 3
years because of these endless threads which don't belong here (not on this
scale). So do I unsub again after 1 Day?!! Id rather not! Come on. Drop it.

Steve Taylor

> yeah well i grew up hanging out in detroit where racist skins 
> would come to 
> shows and fights would happen and cops would come and i 
> learned at an early 
> age _race does matter_..politics _matter_..if you choose to 
> ignore it, if you 
> choose to not be a force for change that is fine but i won't 
> sit here and have 
> someone preach that it doesn't..everything you do is 
> political on some level
> 
> -kathleen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >===== Original Message From tim maughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =====
> george...you couldn't have said it better.
> 
> it really upsets me to watch you all b*tch at each other like 
> this. when i
> was a kid, techno was a unifying force...well, at least here 
> in the UK. when
> i was 16 id sneak out of home and disappear down to london for the
> weekend..spend all the money i had...just to listen to techno 
> in some dingy
> warehouse...or id be spending all saturday night running 
> through the hiddle
> of but-f**k nowhere, chased by the cops, to try and find an 
> illegal sound
> system somewhere...
> 
> and the poeple i did this with - who i talked, danced, got 
> high, and loved
> with - weren't ANY color. hey - yeah..they were black, asian, 
> white, male,
> female, rich kids, ghetto kids, straight, gay, disabled...but 
> no one cared.
> no one said anything. why? cos only one thing mattered:
> 
> techno.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 3/4/01 3:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> > Let's try something folks:
> >
> > 1. Pick you favorite piece of Techno.
> > 2. Pop it in the CD player/turntable/tape deck or whatever.
> > 3. Put your headphones on.
> > 4. Sit down, relax. Press "Play" and close your eyes.
> >
> > When the track is done, open your eyes and hit "stop". Answer this
> > question:
> >
> > At any time while you were listening to that piece of 
> music, did you think
> > about it's creator's race?
> >
> > No. Because it doesn't matter.
> >
> > Must we dwell on such superficial things like skin color? 
> When you're in
> > that sweat box, standing in front of the speakers, 
> listening to the dj
> > spin, moving your body to a 4/4 beat, in a circle checking 
> out the break
> > dancers, in the chill out room, does it matter?
> >
> > When you've taken one too many pills, and the medics come, 
> and the doctors
> > in the hospital pump your stomache, does his or her race 
> make a difference?
> >
> > Remember when you were 3 or 4? In preschool, your friends 
> are every color.
> > You played with everyone; did it matter then?
> >
> > Didn't think so.
> >
> > Why does it matter now?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > TIMOTHY JOHNSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04/03/2001 
> 09:20:08 AM
> >
> > To:   313@hyperreal.org
> > cc:
> > Subject:  Re: [313] Race and Techno Annoyance
> >
> >
> > Ok let's see past the colors.  Obviously it doesn't matter 
> anyways.  We
> > can't see what color each other is over the netwaves.  That 
> is one of the
> > beauties of the internet.  If you ask me, race is not a 
> problem.  Sure it
> > would be great if we were all the same color, but we're 
> not.  Music as well
> > as the internet is a beauty in life that sees thru the 
> colors and blends
> > the culture.  Let's concentrate on the good things: music, 
> uninhibited
> > conversation, fine foods, comfort, and did Imention music?  
> Yeah techno
> > music--my personal favorite.  Peace!
> >
> > WRAITH313
> > www.mp3.com/wraith313
> > -Keep it real, don't let the real keep you-
> >
> >
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