From: "tim maughan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "kharris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] FWD: RE: [313] Race and Techno
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:59:37 +0100
i hope you don't think i was preaching...because thats the last thing i
was
trying to do.
i understand where you're coming from...but i don't know what you want us
to
do.
do want all us white kids to leave the list? to stop listening to techno?
to
pack our vinyl up and send it back to detroit?
i hope not. and the weirdest thing is, after working for years as a
welfare
advisor in one of the most underprivilaged areas of the UK, this is the
closest ive ever come to someone accusing me of being racist.
and i only came here to talk techno.
----- Original Message -----
From: "kharris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:43 PM
Subject: [313] FWD: RE: [313] Race and Techno
> yeah well i grew up hanging out in detroit where racist skins would
come
to
> shows and fights would happen and cops would come and i learned at an
early
> age _race does matter_..politics _matter_..if you choose to ignore it,
if
you
> choose to not be a force for change that is fine but i won't sit here
and
have
> someone preach that it doesn't..everything you do is political on some
level
>
> -kathleen
>
>
>
>
> >===== Original Message From tim maughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =====
> george...you couldn't have said it better.
>
> it really upsets me to watch you all b*tch at each other like this.
when
i
> was a kid, techno was a unifying force...well, at least here in the UK.
when
> i was 16 id sneak out of home and disappear down to london for the
> weekend..spend all the money i had...just to listen to techno in some
dingy
> warehouse...or id be spending all saturday night running through the
hiddle
> of but-f**k nowhere, chased by the cops, to try and find an illegal
sound
> system somewhere...
>
> and the poeple i did this with - who i talked, danced, got high, and
loved
> with - weren't ANY color. hey - yeah..they were black, asian, white,
male,
> female, rich kids, ghetto kids, straight, gay, disabled...but no one
cared.
> no one said anything. why? cos only one thing mattered:
>
> techno.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> on 3/4/01 3:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > Let's try something folks:
> >
> > 1. Pick you favorite piece of Techno.
> > 2. Pop it in the CD player/turntable/tape deck or whatever.
> > 3. Put your headphones on.
> > 4. Sit down, relax. Press "Play" and close your eyes.
> >
> > When the track is done, open your eyes and hit "stop". Answer this
> > question:
> >
> > At any time while you were listening to that piece of music, did you
think
> > about it's creator's race?
> >
> > No. Because it doesn't matter.
> >
> > Must we dwell on such superficial things like skin color? When you're
in
> > that sweat box, standing in front of the speakers, listening to the
dj
> > spin, moving your body to a 4/4 beat, in a circle checking out the
break
> > dancers, in the chill out room, does it matter?
> >
> > When you've taken one too many pills, and the medics come, and the
doctors
> > in the hospital pump your stomache, does his or her race make a
difference?
> >
> > Remember when you were 3 or 4? In preschool, your friends are every
color.
> > You played with everyone; did it matter then?
> >
> > Didn't think so.
> >
> > Why does it matter now?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > TIMOTHY JOHNSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04/03/2001 09:20:08
AM
> >
> > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > cc:
> > Subject: Re: [313] Race and Techno Annoyance
> >
> >
> > Ok let's see past the colors. Obviously it doesn't matter anyways.
We
> > can't see what color each other is over the netwaves. That is one of
the
> > beauties of the internet. If you ask me, race is not a problem.
Sure
it
> > would be great if we were all the same color, but we're not. Music
as
well
> > as the internet is a beauty in life that sees thru the colors and
blends
> > the culture. Let's concentrate on the good things: music,
uninhibited
> > conversation, fine foods, comfort, and did Imention music? Yeah
techno
> > music--my personal favorite. Peace!
> >
> > WRAITH313
> > www.mp3.com/wraith313
> > -Keep it real, don't let the real keep you-
> >
> >
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