I think it needs to be understood here that race "matter" because that's
how most were taught growing up. Earlier I said that as children, everyone
was a friend irregardless of race. It's not until later that you are taught
that, for one reason or another, it does matter. When you're not exposed to
such ignorance, race is no longer an issue.

Case in point - The journy to Mecca that every Muslim must take once in
their lives. You will pray, learn, eat and drink with people from all walks
of life. Your race no longer matters. Allah is all that matters.

Kharris - You talk about how you went to parties in Detroit, I'll talk of
how I LIVED in Detroit. I went to clubs like Legends, The Warehouse, ect
and saw how blacks would come into a predominatly black club and fights
broke out. I went to clubs like Tremors, The Edge (in Ypsi), ect and saw
how whites would come into a predominatly white club and fights broke out.
I saw the cops come and arrest several white kids at a Maxi's on Telegraph
and I-96 after 4 or 5 fights broke out in the parking lot (this was back in
the summer of '95). I was at the River Rock a couple of years ago and the
cops arrested several black kids for fighting.

We all act the same, we all do the same bullsh_t, we are all the same. Why
try to make a distinction based on color?






kharris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@nimbus.ocis.temple.edu> on
04/03/2001 11:43:28 AM

To:   [email protected]
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Subject:  [313] FWD: RE: [313] Race and Techno


yeah well i grew up hanging out in detroit where racist skins would come to
shows and fights would happen and cops would come and i learned at an early
age _race does matter_..politics _matter_..if you choose to ignore it, if
you
choose to not be a force for change that is fine but i won't sit here and
have
someone preach that it doesn't..everything you do is political on some
level

-kathleen




>===== Original Message From tim maughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =====
george...you couldn't have said it better.

it really upsets me to watch you all b*tch at each other like this. when i
was a kid, techno was a unifying force...well, at least here in the UK.
when
i was 16 id sneak out of home and disappear down to london for the
weekend..spend all the money i had...just to listen to techno in some dingy
warehouse...or id be spending all saturday night running through the hiddle
of but-f**k nowhere, chased by the cops, to try and find an illegal sound
system somewhere...

and the poeple i did this with - who i talked, danced, got high, and loved
with - weren't ANY color. hey - yeah..they were black, asian, white, male,
female, rich kids, ghetto kids, straight, gay, disabled...but no one cared.
no one said anything. why? cos only one thing mattered:

techno.






on 3/4/01 3:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

> Let's try something folks:
>
> 1. Pick you favorite piece of Techno.
> 2. Pop it in the CD player/turntable/tape deck or whatever.
> 3. Put your headphones on.
> 4. Sit down, relax. Press "Play" and close your eyes.
>
> When the track is done, open your eyes and hit "stop". Answer this
> question:
>
> At any time while you were listening to that piece of music, did you
think
> about it's creator's race?
>
> No. Because it doesn't matter.
>
> Must we dwell on such superficial things like skin color? When you're in
> that sweat box, standing in front of the speakers, listening to the dj
> spin, moving your body to a 4/4 beat, in a circle checking out the break
> dancers, in the chill out room, does it matter?
>
> When you've taken one too many pills, and the medics come, and the
doctors
> in the hospital pump your stomache, does his or her race make a
difference?
>
> Remember when you were 3 or 4? In preschool, your friends are every
color.
> You played with everyone; did it matter then?
>
> Didn't think so.
>
> Why does it matter now?
>
>
>
>
> TIMOTHY JOHNSON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 04/03/2001 09:20:08 AM
>
> To:   [email protected]
> cc:
> Subject:  Re: [313] Race and Techno Annoyance
>
>
> Ok let's see past the colors.  Obviously it doesn't matter anyways.  We
> can't see what color each other is over the netwaves.  That is one of the
> beauties of the internet.  If you ask me, race is not a problem.  Sure it
> would be great if we were all the same color, but we're not.  Music as
well
> as the internet is a beauty in life that sees thru the colors and blends
> the culture.  Let's concentrate on the good things: music, uninhibited
> conversation, fine foods, comfort, and did Imention music?  Yeah techno
> music--my personal favorite.  Peace!
>
> WRAITH313
> www.mp3.com/wraith313
> -Keep it real, don't let the real keep you-
>
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