I think that's due to the fact that their budget in
production/engineering/marketing of a CD is more money
than we'll ever see :)  Someone writing and mastering
their own stuff won't have that problem.

Kevin


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i should also add, just to counter myself, that the
> greatly reduced 
> distribution costs idea might end up being a big lie
> anyway.  it sure 
> was with the switch to CDs.  we'll see.
> 
> At 7:31 AM -0700 8/15/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >exactly.. you can record to a pristine digital
> 24/96 environment if 
> >you like, and then play that digital recording out.
>  only 
> >consideration is file size.  so technically
> finalscratch could sound 
> >better than records ever did.
> >
> >as for independent labels and distribution, a) this
> won't happen 
> >over night - vinyl production isn't going anywhere
> anytime soon, and 
> >b) sooner or later digital music distribution will
> finally dump its 
> >two left feet and figure out a way a safe and
> efficient way to work. 
> >seems so ironic that all the hard to find music we
> buy is almost 
> >exclusively on vinyl, when it started out as a
> digital master. 
> >artists need to be paid for their work, but in what
> format we 
> >receive it shouldn't matter.  people seem to have
> gotten used to CDs 
> >just fine...  plus, if music got cheaper due to the
> reduced 
> >distribution costs, there's a very good chance
> people would buy a 
> >lot more of it. i know personally there's tons of
> housier records 
> >that i ignore every month because it's just not in
> the budget.  this 
> >also has huge implications for all the tiny,
> regional labels out 
> >there around the world that very few people get
> exposed to.
> >
> >At 6:53 AM -0700 8/15/01, Kevin Conrad wrote:
> >>Final Scratch can also play wav files, so someone
> >>using FS doesn't necessarily have to worry about
> the
> >>low quality of MP3's.
> >>
> >>Kevin
> >>
> >>
> >>--- "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>  While I agree with what Lauryn has said for the
> most
> >>>  part (because we have
> >>>  already seen the effect of Napster on the music
> >>>  industry).  We must include
> >>>  one more particularily special point.
> >>>
> >>>  MP3 Quality at less than a bit rate of 192
> sounds
> >>>  shoddy on the extreme low
> >>>  end and extreme high end.  MP3 is a compression
> >>>  algorithm which lops off the
> >>>  signal at the extent of the human hearing range
> (ie
> >>>  20, 000 Hz but most
> >>>  codecs lop off around 16, 000), and the
> sub-extent
> >>>  of human hearing (around
> >>>  20hz but again most codecs lop off around
> 100Hz).
> >>>  When listening at home
> >>>  this isn't so bad since most in home stereo
> systems
> >>>  already reduce extreme
> >>>  low-high end by means of a crossover either in
> the
> >>>  speaker itself or
> >>>  digitally in the amplifier.  At the club
> however the
> >>>  is no roll off, and
> >>>  things like these become more apparent.
> >>>
> >>>  Worse is the fact that despite our inability to
> hear
> >>>  these frequencies, we
> >>>  can hear the harmonics that they create with
> >>>  frequencies we do hear.
> >>>  Moreover even without knowledge the producer of
> the
> >>>  track may have utilized
> >>>  those particular harmonics.  With MP3 those
> will
> >>>  never be heard.
> >>>
> >>>  I've heard both MP3's and vinyl on the same
> system,
> >>>  and to be honest unless
> >>>  you have a good soundcheck and all your files
> are
> >>>  recorded and EQ'ed
> >>>  properly beforehand, your set will sound
> lackluster.
> >>>
> >>>  MP3's with a bitrate higher than 192 sound
> great,
> >>>  the higher the better, but
> >>>  they take up more room.  As we progress into a
> >>>  generation where physical
> >>>  memory is no longer an issue I'm sure this will
> >>>  become more viable.
> >>>
> >>>  Cheers
> >>>  todd
> >>>  ----- Original Message -----
> >>>  From: "miss lauryn g" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>  To: <[email protected]>
> >>>  Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:10 AM
> >>>  Subject: Re: [313] ANyone know about
> Finalscratch
> >>>  (maybe OT)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  > i think the idea of this technology is
> fantastic.
> >>>  however, what i am
> >>>  > wondering is what this is going to do to the
> >>>  independent record label
> >>>  > industry. use of mp3s right now doesn't
> currently
> >>>  affect them as much as
> >>>  > it does the major record labels. but what
> this is
> >>>  going to do is
> >>>  > discourage buying vinyl. (at least that is
> how i
> >>>  see it.) all you have to
> >>>  > do is basically find a track online or find a
> >>>  friend with that record and
> >>  > > rip an mp3. it's going to cause a lot of
> producers
> >>  > to not make any money.
> >>  > > i wonder how much people are going to start
> >>  > fighting within the dance
> >>  > > music community after this becomes readily
> >>>  available. i personally think
> >>>  > that final scratch is going to be pretty
> popular
> >>  > and that after it gets
> >>>  > some more attention, it's going to be
> utilized by
> >>>  more and more people,
> >>>  > especially after they see that it works so
> well.
> >>>  it's just also a question
> >>>  > of people supporting their artists and buying
> the
> >>>  vinyl still. (which
> >>>  > is something that i would still be doing if i
> >>>  really really wanted a
> >>>  > certain track...it would cause a lot less of
> that
> >>>  "ooooh why did i buy
> >>>  > THAT?" syndrome that i occasionally get here
> and
> >>>  there if i used final
> >>>  > scratch and just had an mp3 of the track.)
> >>>  >
> >>>  > i dunno...i'm just going to sit back and
> watch and
> >>>  see how people start
> >>>  > changing their minds on the mp3 argument when
> it
> >>>  starts affecting THEM.
> >>>  >
> >>>  > -l
> >>>  >
> >>>  >
> >>>  >
> >>>
>
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