i've got to agree here.  this list seems to concentrate a
lot on a sound thats almost 20 years old.  your tastes have
to grow with the music and if you want to listen to, and
pursue production along the lines of something that was
released 20 years ago, have at it.  but no one on this list
is qualified to say that the new stuff is better or vice
versa.  if you dont like it, dont listen to it, and dont
buy it.  but a lot of people like the old stuff and a lot
of people like the new stuff and the same things you may
hate about new techno could be the exact thing that people
enjoy in the same music.  

techno is not only a music, its a medium through which you
deliver energy to the audience, be it one person reading a
book, or 1000 hardcore techno heads in a warehouse in
detroit.

I for one am glad that the new stuff is different.  that
sound is nearly 20 years old.  if I want to hear it, there
is plenty available, no need for me to waste my time
recreating it.

techno is like michigans weather.  if you don't like it
now, just wait 5 minutes.

:D


-Joe


But the thing with good techno is that it shouldn't really
endeavour to
sound a hell of a lot like music that was being made ten or
fifteen
years ago, surely? Obviously a lot of the music on Drumcode
is
influenced by early techno, but I personally don't like
something just
because it's derived from something else. The gimmick with
early techno
is that it just sounded so unprecedented (for want of a
better word),
while modern loopy techno doesn't carry that excitement.

What you want is to be able to walk into a record shop,
say, once every
two weeks, and each time you visit the new records have
actually
*advanced* in some way beyond the stuff you were listening
to on your
last visit. It was probably in the mid 1990s that that
sense of
excitement and advancement started to drop out of
contemporary techno,
for me. When you look at the original manifestations of
loopy techno
(Axis output, the Red releases, etc), they're actually
*better* than a
lot of the present-day loopy techno. It doesn't look to me
as if today's
loopy techno has the same level of vitality as loopy techno
did in 1995,
and it certainly doesn't seem to have the vitality that was
there in the
early days of tracks like Funky Funk Funk.

Brendan

| -----Original Message-----
| From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 12 February 2003 15:46
| To: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: Re: (313) t-1000 interview (techno rant)
| 
| 
| You also hear the influence of repetitive Detroit techno
| tracks like Funky Funk Funk on techno artist like Dave
| Clarke who's Red series was very influential on 90's
techno.
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