That's an interesting idea. I think if you dragged me, in a time
machine, from 1995, and played me the Drumcode stuff, I'd have been a
bit disappointed at how little progress seemed to have been made. "This
stuff already exists!" I'd have told you, while throwing Axis records at
you. Perhaps there'd be a bit more polish to the productions, but that's
not what I'd count as "advancement"... ie, I consider Minimal Nation to
be a more "advanced" piece of music than anything on Drumcode really.

Brendan

| -----Original Message-----
| From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 12 February 2003 16:09
| To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: Re: (313) t-1000 interview (techno rant)
| 
| 
| If you showed toady's techno to someone in the mid 90's it
| would sound more advanced, they might not like what they
| hear though.
| I think this was T1000's point about not enough quality
| techno being released although there are other good forms of
| electronic music.
| 
| on 2/12/03 10:36 AM, Brendan Nelson at 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 
| > But the thing with good techno is that it shouldn't really 
| endeavour to
| > sound a hell of a lot like music that was being made ten or fifteen
| > years ago, surely? Obviously a lot of the music on Drumcode is
| > influenced by early techno, but I personally don't like 
| something just
| > because it's derived from something else. The gimmick with 
| early techno
| > is that it just sounded so unprecedented (for want of a 
| better word),
| > while modern loopy techno doesn't carry that excitement.
| > 
| > What you want is to be able to walk into a record shop, 
| say, once every
| > two weeks, and each time you visit the new records have actually
| > *advanced* in some way beyond the stuff you were listening 
| to on your
| > last visit. It was probably in the mid 1990s that that sense of
| > excitement and advancement started to drop out of 
| contemporary techno,
| > for me. When you look at the original manifestations of loopy techno
| > (Axis output, the Red releases, etc), they're actually 
| *better* than a
| > lot of the present-day loopy techno. It doesn't look to me 
| as if today's
| > loopy techno has the same level of vitality as loopy techno 
| did in 1995,
| > and it certainly doesn't seem to have the vitality that was 
| there in the
| > early days of tracks like Funky Funk Funk.
| > 
| > Brendan
| 
| 

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