Thanks for the comparison...I agree about the pitch, I like the resistencace on the 1210s but vestax are definitely moving things forward quite substantially especially with the straight arm etc.
As as slight tangent I was considering in investing in some Shure M44 scratch carts to stick on my 1210s as Im fed up with the skipping - does anyone use these / know if they will do the trick ? Peace, marc > -----Original Message----- > From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:10 AM > To: Chris Anglesey; [email protected] > Subject: RE: (313) Vestax or Technics > > > My 2 cts in this discussion: > > Since 7 months I have two Vestax PDX 2000 at home after using > Technics for about 13 years. It was some getting used to at > first. They have more power than the 1200, so you have to use > a little more force to slow down or speed up the platter. > Also, the pitch control fader is very light, which I don't > like (the only thing). Whereas with a technics pitch, you > actually have the feeling you are sort of "pushing" the > record to a slower speed, with the vestax fader there is no > friction whatsoever, so it's fairly easy to accidentaly tip > the fader a little bit up or down while mixing. The straight > tone arm does wonders against skipping and for scratching, > although I totally suck at that, but I'm making progress very > slowly. The ultra pitch and the reverse button are nice > gadgets, but no more than that. I occasionally use them to > create effects when recording a mix. I still have to find a > purpose of the quartz lock button and I really don't > understand why Technics persists on including this on the > newer models as well. If anyone can explain to me what this > functionality is good for, please do! > > However, I've noticed that I'm actually faster on a technics > now. Don't know what the reason is, the higher force of the > platter or the +- 10 pitch control, but the difference is > significant (Jeff Mills watch your back ;-) ) The argument > that everywhere technics are used so you should buy those too > is a bit nonsense. When I start playing somewhere with > technics, at first I brake or speed up a bit too fast, but > that takes just a few seconds to get used to. Well before I > throw the first record in it's all business as usual. > > So in short, it doesn't make much difference what you buy. I > bought mine because I see the vestax as progress and I hate > the placing of the on/off button of the technics and the fact > that the needle often skips too easily (although that can > easily be solved by bringing your own cartidges to a gig). > The vestax also seem to have less problems with feedback > (rumble). As far as durability goes, hard to say after 6 > months home use mostly, but at least they feel even more > robust than 1200's to me and with that magnetic motor, > there's not much that can wear out. On the other hand, how > many 1200's do you encounter where the light is still working? > > I'm happy with them and I wouldn't trade them in for technics. > > > Joost > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: zondag 27 juli 2003 22:46 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: (313) Vestax or Technics > > > > > > > > > > Hello 313 Peepz, > > > > I've come into a bit of money (literally) and am looking to > > invest in a pair of turntables; the question is what to go > > for, Technics or Vestax ? I've had SL1210's before and > > although they are reliable i've always been disappointed by > > their lack of features. I've heard good things about the > > Vestax decks (e.g reverse function, plus/minus 16 capacity) > > but their seems to be a big question surrounding how durable > > they actually are. Apparently Technics have just released a > > MK5 version as well (albeit minus a reverse function). > > > > Would be interested in hearing other peoples opinions. > > Sorry if this one's slightly off-topic and if you've received > > it a number of times (currently having problems with a new > computer). > > > > Chris. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
