was Red Bull there this year? I can't even remember if it was last year -doh!- 
but Red Bull in Europe
do alot for clubs/events etc they really go out of there way to help...but as 
you say blue chips would be good as well as bigger brands....
 
also Vestax are good for events but off course you gotta use Vestax's thru and 
thru which aint bad ..I am sure they tried all avenues but to be honest I find 
it hard ebough myself just dealing with family/work/djing and producing net 
along  trying to organise a free event for the masses so hats off to Derrick, 
Kevin and Co...

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Wed 02/06/2004 15:38 
        To: [email protected] 
        Cc: 
        Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement
        
        

        Yes the city does help out with some of the other festivals
        But there is also tons of sponsors at other events, the booth
        rental rates were too much for a small business to jump on at least
        for me.
        These were the cost $200.00 to the city for license $2200 for  the
        10x10 booths with no sides $3700 for the 12x12 booth with sides.
        so on the low end a small business would need to sell $2400 worth
        of merchandise just to break even. So for me it was not in my budget.
        There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford was a major
        sponsor, and I work for a big computer company that moved downtown last 
year
        and nobody approached them. These are they type of sponsors they need 
the
        clothing stores are cool, but they don't have the same level of money 
to put
        up. The economy is bad, yes but all the resources need to be tapped.
        Now we have the pontiac techno house music festival  july 11-12 which I 
plan
        to
        attend, but the real question why start a new festival instead of 
joining
        forces
        with the movement festival.
        And maybe it's just me but the name change from demf/movement needs to 
be
        properly
        communicated-did anyone notice that some restaurants/bars had old demf 
signs
        up.
        I know that's petty but I noticed it.
        Also I think everyone in the city with a small record label needs to
        contribute
        so that a city wide effort is put forth.
        The logistics were poor, mainly due to city politics there were politics
        involved
        last year, but this year they interfered with the festival, so it was 
out in
        the
        open not behind the scenes like last year.
        Derrick,(Transmat,High Tech)Kevin(KMS) worked hard to give us a good 
show.
        So I send them one big Techno Thank You......................
        Overall I enjoyed the movement 04, I played on Sunday afternoon @nikkis
        with negative-saucer which was a cool small set.
        
        
        Tim
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 9:09 AM
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Erin Bate
        Cc: [email protected]; /0
        Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement
        
        
        I still can't believe that the city doesn't pay a dime. Down here
        (charlotte) the city pays for most of the chessy music festivals we have
        and they don't draw anywhere near a million + people. Do any of you guys
        in Detroit know whether the city helps for other festivals in the city.
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:17 PM
        To: Erin Bate
        Cc: [email protected]; /0
        Subject: Re: (313) my personal experience at movement
        
        
        
        
        
        Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well.
        
        So what part of the business do they need to run better?
         Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy
        part?
        Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash
        part?
        Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money or
        getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major debt?
        I'd like to know...
        
        Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is
        going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to
        happen again.
        
        How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival?
        
        MEK
        
        
        
        
        
                              Erin Bate
        
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          I would hold on to your check until derrick takes some business
        classes.
        ~E
        
        From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success.
                                But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot.
        Detroit
                                can't let this slip away.
        
                    this is an excellent article - really says it like it is.
                    I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF
                    should read this
        
                    I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so
        I
                    can go again next year
                    where do I send my check?
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
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