I'm not saying anything negative about the Derrick,Kevin and co.. it's my city Detroit I'm talking about the city does not support the music like they do other events, just a couple weeks ago they had the hip hop summit, which was supported. The city sees our event as a chance to milk us listeners for the money, but not kick out any... These are the same reasons why many artist have left the city...
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:48 AM To: Steward, Tim; [email protected] Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement was Red Bull there this year? I can't even remember if it was last year -doh!- but Red Bull in Europe do alot for clubs/events etc they really go out of there way to help...but as you say blue chips would be good as well as bigger brands.... also Vestax are good for events but off course you gotta use Vestax's thru and thru which aint bad ..I am sure they tried all avenues but to be honest I find it hard ebough myself just dealing with family/work/djing and producing net along trying to organise a free event for the masses so hats off to Derrick, Kevin and Co... -----Original Message----- From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 02/06/2004 15:38 To: [email protected] Cc: Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement Yes the city does help out with some of the other festivals But there is also tons of sponsors at other events, the booth rental rates were too much for a small business to jump on at least for me. These were the cost $200.00 to the city for license $2200 for the 10x10 booths with no sides $3700 for the 12x12 booth with sides. so on the low end a small business would need to sell $2400 worth of merchandise just to break even. So for me it was not in my budget. There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford was a major sponsor, and I work for a big computer company that moved downtown last year and nobody approached them. These are they type of sponsors they need the clothing stores are cool, but they don't have the same level of money to put up. The economy is bad, yes but all the resources need to be tapped. Now we have the pontiac techno house music festival july 11-12 which I plan to attend, but the real question why start a new festival instead of joining forces with the movement festival. And maybe it's just me but the name change from demf/movement needs to be properly communicated-did anyone notice that some restaurants/bars had old demf signs up. I know that's petty but I noticed it. Also I think everyone in the city with a small record label needs to contribute so that a city wide effort is put forth. The logistics were poor, mainly due to city politics there were politics involved last year, but this year they interfered with the festival, so it was out in the open not behind the scenes like last year. Derrick,(Transmat,High Tech)Kevin(KMS) worked hard to give us a good show. So I send them one big Techno Thank You...................... Overall I enjoyed the movement 04, I played on Sunday afternoon @nikkis with negative-saucer which was a cool small set. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Erin Bate Cc: [email protected]; /0 Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement I still can't believe that the city doesn't pay a dime. Down here (charlotte) the city pays for most of the chessy music festivals we have and they don't draw anywhere near a million + people. Do any of you guys in Detroit know whether the city helps for other festivals in the city. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:17 PM To: Erin Bate Cc: [email protected]; /0 Subject: Re: (313) my personal experience at movement Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well. So what part of the business do they need to run better? Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy part? Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash part? Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money or getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major debt? I'd like to know... Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to happen again. How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival? MEK Erin Bate <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thms.com> cc: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) my personal experience at movement 06/01/04 02:51 PM I would hold on to your check until derrick takes some business classes. ~E From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success. But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot. Detroit can't let this slip away. this is an excellent article - really says it like it is. I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF should read this I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so I can go again next year where do I send my check? The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. 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