red bull was a huge sponsor last year (free red bull and barcardi all
weekeds- groan)

evidentally, they were treated rather poorly (heard this from a girl in LA
who used to work for red bull and who has never even been to detroit- so
it must have been pretty bad)

nothing but some free miller on-site this year, hidden so it didn't get
drank. and no giant inflatable beer bottle like past years.


On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> was Red Bull there this year? I can't even remember if it was last year 
> -doh!- but Red Bull in Europe
> do alot for clubs/events etc they really go out of there way to help...but as 
> you say blue chips would be good as well as bigger brands....
>
> also Vestax are good for events but off course you gotta use Vestax's thru 
> and thru which aint bad ..I am sure they tried all avenues but to be honest I 
> find it hard ebough myself just dealing with family/work/djing and producing 
> net along  trying to organise a free event for the masses so hats off to 
> Derrick, Kevin and Co...
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Sent: Wed 02/06/2004 15:38
>       To: [email protected]
>       Cc:
>       Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement
>
>
>
>       Yes the city does help out with some of the other festivals
>       But there is also tons of sponsors at other events, the booth
>       rental rates were too much for a small business to jump on at least
>       for me.
>       These were the cost $200.00 to the city for license $2200 for  the
>       10x10 booths with no sides $3700 for the 12x12 booth with sides.
>       so on the low end a small business would need to sell $2400 worth
>       of merchandise just to break even. So for me it was not in my budget.
>       There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford was a major
>       sponsor, and I work for a big computer company that moved downtown last 
> year
>       and nobody approached them. These are they type of sponsors they need 
> the
>       clothing stores are cool, but they don't have the same level of money 
> to put
>       up. The economy is bad, yes but all the resources need to be tapped.
>       Now we have the pontiac techno house music festival  july 11-12 which I 
> plan
>       to
>       attend, but the real question why start a new festival instead of 
> joining
>       forces
>       with the movement festival.
>       And maybe it's just me but the name change from demf/movement needs to 
> be
>       properly
>       communicated-did anyone notice that some restaurants/bars had old demf 
> signs
>       up.
>       I know that's petty but I noticed it.
>       Also I think everyone in the city with a small record label needs to
>       contribute
>       so that a city wide effort is put forth.
>       The logistics were poor, mainly due to city politics there were politics
>       involved
>       last year, but this year they interfered with the festival, so it was 
> out in
>       the
>       open not behind the scenes like last year.
>       Derrick,(Transmat,High Tech)Kevin(KMS) worked hard to give us a good 
> show.
>       So I send them one big Techno Thank You......................
>       Overall I enjoyed the movement 04, I played on Sunday afternoon @nikkis
>       with negative-saucer which was a cool small set.
>
>
>       Tim
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 9:09 AM
>       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Erin Bate
>       Cc: [email protected]; /0
>       Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement
>
>
>       I still can't believe that the city doesn't pay a dime. Down here
>       (charlotte) the city pays for most of the chessy music festivals we have
>       and they don't draw anywhere near a million + people. Do any of you guys
>       in Detroit know whether the city helps for other festivals in the city.
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:17 PM
>       To: Erin Bate
>       Cc: [email protected]; /0
>       Subject: Re: (313) my personal experience at movement
>
>
>
>
>
>       Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well.
>
>       So what part of the business do they need to run better?
>        Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy
>       part?
>       Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash
>       part?
>       Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money or
>       getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major debt?
>       I'd like to know...
>
>       Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is
>       going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to
>       happen again.
>
>       How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival?
>
>       MEK
>
>
>
>
>
>                             Erin Bate
>
>                             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]        To:       /0
>       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>                             thms.com>                cc:
>       [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                                                      Subject:  Re: (313) my
>       personal experience at movement
>                             06/01/04 02:51 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>         I would hold on to your check until derrick takes some business
>       classes.
>       ~E
>
>       From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success.
>                               But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot.
>       Detroit
>                               can't let this slip away.
>
>                   this is an excellent article - really says it like it is.
>                   I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF
>                   should read this
>
>                   I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so
>       I
>                   can go again next year
>                   where do I send my check?
>
>
>
>
>
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