well, just as i can be so bold as to point fingers and call out, i can also retract and say im sorry... but only for making it personal. in past threads, i had remembered you coming off quite elitest and i thought it was going to head in that direction again. it looks as though i mightve made the wrong call and i apologize for that. not to tom though, because im certain thats where it was going.
whatever... that being said. i think i covered everything i wanted to say before. i guess the only thing to really adress is that j t, youve been on here a while now and should be quite familliar with tristans posts, as well as many others on this list. when someone (yourself included) comes on and starts praising something as highly as tristan did, i would never dream of asking them what their deal was with hyping something up. it just came off in a fashion of "how dare you come on here, hype up something i like, and get other people interested in it. pretty soon were going to have kids that hated me in high school listening to it and then i cant like it anymore". ...or something to that effect. the point i was trying to make before is that i dont think good music should be kept to ones self. it should be accessible to anyone in the world. i would get so mad whenever any dj would black out his or her records so that it could be thier own special track. that is kinda a tanget to this, but good music SHOULD get hyped up. sometimes its the only way someone will get around to listening to it, short of sitting them down and down and playing it for someone specificly. and since were all on computers, sometimes it takes a post like tristans to get someones attention to the fullest. im acctually curious to know if just through this discussion how many people ended up hearing mathew music for the first time and have been turned on to it. because it is "hype" like this that people should be listening for. hype isnt always bad. i wish there was an alternate term for this type of hype, but there isnt. so, once again, sorry for jumping to conclusions on you. /me orders 2 shots of sambuca from the bar, but stiffs you with the tab. ;) derek. On Sun, 25 Jul 2004, J. T. wrote: > i wasnt trying to say mj doesnt deserve praise you know. but i don't care if > the whole list proclaims it record of the year, i can still state my > opinion. derek p may be a great dj and a beautiful human being but he doesnt > know me and i dont appreciate being called an elitist and "to get over > myself" just because i state my opinion. i complained about hype because > tristan had set the record up as so obviously incredibly wonderful, i have > to feel like i'm tearing it down just because i don't completely agree. i > did not mean i am against it just because it is being "hyped" (which it isnt > even...), i meant it was hard to offer a differing opinion since his had big > flashing neon lights around it. i'm glad for almost anybody's success who is > making techno, but that doesnt mean i can't still criticize their work, > gimme a break. i like plenty of things that are hyped, taste is taste hype > or not! stop assuming ulterior motives (and you call me jaded!). when you > set something way up high on a pedestal, it's a long way down to hear a > differing opinion. it's a lot easier to discuss music when you allow in your > wording that other people might feel differently and don't try so hard to > "sell" it -- do you want to discuss, or do you just want to broadcast your > opinion and hear "amens"? i realize tristan likes to word his praise as if > greatness is undeniable, he was just as emphatic about amp last year, and > that's fine, it's part of his charm, just let me disagree if i do disagree > -- sometimes i dont! i didnt react strongly, i feel comfortable talking > about music with tristan, i was just talking...i didnt mean to offend > anybody, but apparently i'm a playerhater and an elitist now. meanwhile, > ironically, it's acceptable to insult ur even tho they deserve 100 times the > respect, they've earned it. gimme a break. sorry to tarnish the glowing > praise but if you can offer your opinion i can offer mine, it's pretty gd > simple. > > this is the 4th time i've been attacked by amazingly emotional fans for > sharing any critical thought, 1st about amp fiddler, then matthew dear, then > planet e pricing, now this. don't any of you have any real problems? > > well people have problems if they are taking this list that seriously and > emotionally. derek and tristan's explanations for their praise is all fine, > good to read, very earnest, but i don't need the insults from derek -- i > have absolutely no problem with either of your opinions. and i don't call > you names for not being crazy about the music i really love. i understand > derek is friends with mj and matt dear and wants to stick up for them, i do > the same for friends of mine, but i'm not who you think i am you got the > wrong guy. > > >I've not been this excited about anyone in techno since I don't know when, > >so perhaps that will make my hype a bit more credible, or maybe it's just > >more hype. I see the value in comparison. It may not be fair to say one > > i'm glad you're excited about it! hype exists for a reason, third time i've > said it now...i know others who think the record flat out "sucks" and > they're not "elitists" for thinking that, they like what they like and dont > like what they dont. so what. let people speak their mind. sorry i said > anything about hype, it obviously makes people very very sensitive and jump > to conclusions. > jt > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ >
