(i dont want to brethe new life into an out-of-control thread but here
goes....)
yeah i agree with you, at first it was called just plain hardcore (or
'ardkore) but then as the sub-genres developed, it became known as happy
hardcore.
actually i think this is also to differentiate it the gabber, rotterdam
variety that came out later on....
fab.
----- Original Message -----
From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dan Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313 Org" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Hardcore u no the score (was rob hall etc)
i find the use of the term 'happy' when used with hardcore a bit wierd
here.
wasn't it just 'hardcore'?
i thought the 'happy' came later, along with 160bpm four to the floor
instead of breaks
could be wrong tho as what i know as hardcore lost me when i became more
interested in house music.
robin...
On 6 May 2005, at 11:37, Dan Bean wrote:
Hardcore and Jungle/D&B share musical elements such as tempo and the use
of breaks + there was a fair bit of crossover in terms of producers and
DJs. DJs at the time would play sets either mixing the two or have a
happy hardcore set and a jungle set (e.g. Kenny Ken). Danny Breaks was
one of many producers that crossed over. In fact the Essex jungle peeps
(especially the Suburban Base crew) probably had the closest links to
hardcore, though not necessarily the happy end of things.
Early jungle comps such as Drum & Bass Selection Vol 1:
http://www.discogs.com/release/97955
illustrate the link quite well. At the time it was marketed as a D&B
compilation, but listening back the hardcore element is pretty strong.
Suburban Base's 'The Joint' is probably another good example:
http://www.discogs.com/release/157323
Check the Sonz Of Loop Da Loop Era (Danny Breaks) track for breakbeat
madness!
Having said all that, there was definitely a distinction between the
stereotypical happy hardcore and D&B fans. The former would be pilled up
with their shirts off, jogging on the spot for hours on end, whereas the
D&B fans tended to be more into spliffs and punctuate standing around
with the occassional burst of frenetic activity. Obviously it was more
complicated than that though..
You wrote:
This thread isn't long enough already in my opinion, so I'd like to add
that I can't see much relation to happy hardcore and drum 'n' bass, (or
'jungle') although I do see how they evolved from similar origins.
