Hmmm, it's a funny one really. My flatmate bought a final scratch
recently and I must say that while beforehand I was quite
ambivalent towards a 'scratch' solution that now I'm seriously
considering buying a FS unit. There is something quite nice about
being able to use turntables as the control surface, and this
really has nothing to do with whether or not 'records is the only
way to play tunes' - I play ableton sets every now and then, and
use CDs quite happily with no sense of stigma.
I guess it might have something to do with records being what I'm
the most used to, and therefore comfortable with, but I really do
enjoy using FS to play digital files more than any other method.
That being said, Traktor DJ Studio 3 is bloody amazing software.
You can use it with FS2 but even in standalone mode it's wicked. It
has some really cool effects (that are tons better than DJ-mixer
effects boxes) and brilliant looping features and you can run 4
decks at once with it.
So I guess that even though my heart loves final scratch, if anyone
was looking for a solution for playing digital files I would
recommend Traktor DJ Studio 3 above them all - above CD decks,
above final scratch, above ableton even. It's less than US$300 as
well so it's easily the most affordable. And you don't even need a
mixer. Couple it with the Behringer BCR2000 controller for lots of
hands-on knob-twiddling and you're laughing.
Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/04/2006 1:14 pm >>>
I agree with you.
I hate people trying to reproduce the perfect saxofone sound in a
synth. God damn it, call a saxofone player.
Why use serato or final scratch? If your music is in a digital
format, you can use a large range of softwares to do virtualy
everything when it comes to mixing, beat matching or whatever.
Why stay tied to the limited possibilities of a turntable? If you
want to do what turntables do, damn, put a real vinyl record on and
do your thing,
Finally, let me say: i'm a turntable dj. I like turntables, i do the
turntable style thing. But if i go digital, like songs in a hard
disk, i'll not limit myself to a turntable.
CDJ is usefull for me to make some loops, play things that require
great amount of pitch up or down (like +/- 16) with master tempo.
There a lot of DJs using final scratch and serato just to show up in
a glamour vinyl style without giving up the confort of carrying just
a laptop. That makes no sense to me. I like music more than i like
equipment.
Kw
On 04/04/2006, at 10:36, Kent Williams wrote:
Given what these things cost, I'm not sure why one wouldn't just get
Traktor on a laptop -- it's a much more flexible, easier to way to
mix.
That being said, I love mixing on the old Denon DN 2000s, because
they
were really simple. Find your cue point once, instead of over and
over
like with records, then drop the track in and tweak tempo. I also
liked picking up the controller in one arm and tweaking with the
other
hand. People would ask me what instrument I was playing.
Both Final Scratch and the fancy CD players with platters seem to me
to be trying to preserve a paradigm for mixing and beat matching
that's inappropriate to the technology. Traktor is really easy to
beat match in, even if you ignore the 'automatic' beat matching.
And if you can't give up the wikki-wikki you can get Traktor with
Final Scratch.
Of course, for me, the idea of paying hundreds of dollars for
something that REQUIRES you to have turntables in order to mix is
kind of crazy. That only makes sense in Ubercoolische world, where
the DJ equipment is something you specify in a rider, not something
you haul up and down stairs.
Once you learn to beat match in one medium it shouldn't be that hard
to transfer the skills to a new one. IMHO.
On 4/3/06, Adam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sup List,
anyone own a cd mixer that they enjoy playing 313 music related CDs
on? Or dislike a CD mixer that you own?
I'm considering buying one and saw a couple models in my price
range.
The Pioneer CDJ-200 Mixer and the Denon DN-S1000, both around
$400 US
each. Wondering if there are any thoughts on either of these and if
they're decent, or if I should hold out for the Pioneer CDJ-800
(around $600US) (can't bring myself to spend $1000 US on the
CDJ-1000).
Thanks for any tips or info,
Adam
