my intention was to correct certain ppl who make their living off of >juan
adn feel the need to discredit other artist in a vague attempt to >up their
income.
and in that vein, who pays your bills (???) mr. i work for motor and
freelance for ad-driven, cheese filled, put lil' kim on the cover cuz she's
made of plastic and played a record once in tokyo magazines?
so are you discrediting the innovators, the musicians, the history-altering,
no matter how 'dusty', in a vague attempt to up yours?
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Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:17:39 -0500 (EST)
my intention was never to slap juan.
my intention was to correct certain ppl who make their living off of juan
adn feel the need to discredit other artist in a vague attempt to up their
income.
although, in a moment of blatent self appraisal, i suppose i have taken a
few shots at juan in the interest of promoting otehr artist who i
personally feel deserve the attention more than he does.
we're only human.
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I cant believe what bullshit this list is. dont you fools
> know that the music knows no color? cant you people
> remember the days when no one knew what color the guy
> putting out the record was and you just listened to it
> for, *gasp* the MUSIC?
>
> This list bickers and bitches about race more than detroit
> techno. I doubt that Juan would be making racist sounding
> comments. why would you talk shit about the man when you
> can EASILY contact him and hash things out with him? dont
> you think he (or you if you were in his position) would
> prefer that?
>
> you know he reads this and yet you continue to slap him in
> the face with unsubstantiated rumors and other bullshit.
> I dont consider myself a fan or his, but he seems like a
> nice guy and for that matter, who on this list deserves
> the cumulative bullshit you cats are so eager to dish out?
>
> as for DEMF, its free to get in, and free to get out. I
> suggest if you are displeased with it, either dont go, or
> leave... more room for the people that are there for the
> music, not to say they went to demf all 3 years.
>
> is this where some of you try to guess my color? I would
> bet you have already, after reading the above.
>
> ---
>
> this is my opinion. I welcome yours.
>
> -Joe
> _ns_
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Uh No the DEMF was not a Detroit clique thing and even if
> it was it is called
> the DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL.
>
> you must be a person living outside of the us or in the us
> in a white skin
> and ignorant of history.
>
> UR and Atkins are pioneers of this music and get no respect
> from the business
> end.
>
> why should Elvis or Eminem make more money and get more
> credibility than Ike
> Turner or Redman???
>
> Because in AMerica white people doing Black art is always
> seen as a
> marvel.......
>
> Look at NYSYNC and the list goes on. Look at Black rock
> group Fishbone. Are
> you telling me they are good enough to get paid.
>
>
> The point is this; the people who run the business are full
> of isms that
> determine who gets the spotlight.
>
> No one is denying anyone their right to listen to what they
> want but don't
> forget the history.
>
> I spoke with a Black rocker in NYC and he told me that many
> A & R men didn't
> know what to do with Black guys playing soulful rock music.
>
> The record executive behind Digable Planets told them they
> were not hard
> translate "black enough" for hip-hop.
>
> So Juan is in the same position......
>
> I don't have time to break this down anymore but Juan is
> not crying he's
> simply commenting on the truth; the music business is run
> by a bunch of
> culturally biased and/or ignorant people who have definite
> ideas about the
> value of the music based on their racist crap.
>
> if anyone does not understand where I'm coming from I will
> make one more post
> I don't have a lot of time to keep repeating this tired
> story.
>
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