i don't really think that hip-hop 'replaced' techno.

even in the 80's there really couldn't have been more than several
thousand ppl attending the music institute.

radio certainly had more variety back then, but hip-hop certainly had its
cultural footing in place long before techno was even a contender.

On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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> Ok sorry but I'm kinda going backward in reading my mail today -
> After reading reading all the opinions on this very real very serious
> problem several questions and other points come up in my head -
>
> Let me begin with this question - why has hip-hop replaced techno/house as
> the accepted black music form among black people?
> I've read countless times that techno was THE music for young black people
> (at least in Detroit) until hip-hop came along - so I have to ask what
> is/was it about techno that, apparently, makes it not relevant to the
> greater black culture? And I'll ask the same about hip-hop? What was/is it
> about  hip-hop that pulled a previously techno listening audience toward it
> and away from techno?
>
> >From there I have to bring up an article that I think was in Newsweek , and
> another magazine which title slips my mind, about the latest Grammy Awards,
> the drop in CD sales and rise in "pirated" music (Audiogalaxy, napster,
> etc.). The author was making the point that the connection between the drop
> in CD sales and the high rotation of music from the shallow well of pop on
> radio and MTV has caused people to "turn off" and search out their own
> music tastes. Where am I going with this....
>
> >the music business is run by a bunch of culturally biased and/or ignorant
> people who have definite ideas about the
> >value of the music based on their racist crap.
>
> yeah, are they ignorant and completely clueless as to what people REALLY
> want? - all they know is this current system makes them loads of money -
> I'm talking about record and radio execs. So why is it that people listen
> MORE and stayed tuned to one station MORE when less diversity is played???
> I've seen more and more essays on this topic in local and national press -
> about how absolutely awful the current state of the recording and
> broadcasting industry is and how people are getting more and more fed up
> with the Brittanys and NYSYCs. But something doesn't jive with me when I
> think about how people seem to tune in more often and stay tuned to music
> that they don't like?!
> Can anyone explain these things to me?
>
> MEK
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> Uh No the DEMF was not a Detroit clique thing and even if it was it is
> called
> the DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL.
>
> you must be a person living outside of the us or in the us in a white skin
> and ignorant of history.
>
> UR and Atkins are pioneers of this music and get no respect from the
> business
> end.
>
> why should Elvis or Eminem make more money and get more credibility than
> Ike
> Turner or Redman???
>
> Because in AMerica white people doing Black art is always seen as a
> marvel.......
>
> Look at NYSYNC and the list goes on. Look at Black rock group Fishbone. Are
>
> you telling me they are good enough to get paid.
>
>
> The point is this; the people who run the business are full of isms that
> determine who gets the spotlight.
>
> No one is denying anyone their right to listen to what they want but don't
> forget the history.
>
> I spoke with a Black rocker in NYC and he told me that many A & R men
> didn't
> know what to do with Black guys playing soulful rock music.
>
> The record executive behind Digable Planets told them they were not hard
> translate "black enough" for hip-hop.
>
> So Juan is in the same position......
>
> I don't have time to break this down anymore but Juan is not crying he's
> simply commenting on the truth; the music business is run by a bunch of
> culturally biased and/or ignorant people who have definite ideas about the
> value of the music based on their racist crap.
>
> if anyone does not understand where I'm coming from I will make one more
> post
> I don't have a lot of time to keep repeating this tired story.
>
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