number one- the magazine you are refering to is mixer. i have not ever written for them.
#2- almost every single detroit artist of note has played motor, so i don't want to hear about it. #3- you didn't seem to have a problem with my politics when i was doing features on your night. THis entire discussion began when laura posted a completely unsolicited tirade about how everyone should work to make the sasha and digweed show a failiur because their sucess damages her and juans livelyhood. that is plain-old wrong and as an active member of the electronic community in Detorit, I felt obligated to counter her argument. I've always had a great time at mixworks and other Detroit-centric events. However, I will not limit myself to an us against them method of appriciating music or operating my business. Whenever there is a Detroit based event, I encourge ppl to attend, whether trough my writing, or though personal channels. But i will NEVER discourage ppl from attending any event because it goes against my personal taste. On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, keleigh casper wrote: > >my intention was to correct certain ppl who make their living off of >juan > >adn feel the need to discredit other artist in a vague attempt to >up their > >income. > > > and in that vein, who pays your bills (???) mr. i work for motor and > freelance for ad-driven, cheese filled, put lil' kim on the cover cuz she's > made of plastic and played a record once in tokyo magazines? > > so are you discrediting the innovators, the musicians, the history-altering, > no matter how 'dusty', in a vague attempt to up yours? > > > > > > > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > ><[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business > >Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:17:39 -0500 (EST) > > > >my intention was never to slap juan. > >my intention was to correct certain ppl who make their living off of juan > >adn feel the need to discredit other artist in a vague attempt to up their > >income. > > > >although, in a moment of blatent self appraisal, i suppose i have taken a > >few shots at juan in the interest of promoting otehr artist who i > >personally feel deserve the attention more than he does. > > > >we're only human. > > > >On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I cant believe what bullshit this list is. dont you fools > > > know that the music knows no color? cant you people > > > remember the days when no one knew what color the guy > > > putting out the record was and you just listened to it > > > for, *gasp* the MUSIC? > > > > > > This list bickers and bitches about race more than detroit > > > techno. I doubt that Juan would be making racist sounding > > > comments. why would you talk shit about the man when you > > > can EASILY contact him and hash things out with him? dont > > > you think he (or you if you were in his position) would > > > prefer that? > > > > > > you know he reads this and yet you continue to slap him in > > > the face with unsubstantiated rumors and other bullshit. > > > I dont consider myself a fan or his, but he seems like a > > > nice guy and for that matter, who on this list deserves > > > the cumulative bullshit you cats are so eager to dish out? > > > > > > as for DEMF, its free to get in, and free to get out. I > > > suggest if you are displeased with it, either dont go, or > > > leave... more room for the people that are there for the > > > music, not to say they went to demf all 3 years. > > > > > > is this where some of you try to guess my color? I would > > > bet you have already, after reading the above. > > > > > > --- > > > > > > this is my opinion. I welcome yours. > > > > > > -Joe > > > _ns_ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uh No the DEMF was not a Detroit clique thing and even if > > > it was it is called > > > the DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL. > > > > > > you must be a person living outside of the us or in the us > > > in a white skin > > > and ignorant of history. > > > > > > UR and Atkins are pioneers of this music and get no respect > > > from the business > > > end. > > > > > > why should Elvis or Eminem make more money and get more > > > credibility than Ike > > > Turner or Redman??? > > > > > > Because in AMerica white people doing Black art is always > > > seen as a > > > marvel....... > > > > > > Look at NYSYNC and the list goes on. Look at Black rock > > > group Fishbone. Are > > > you telling me they are good enough to get paid. > > > > > > > > > The point is this; the people who run the business are full > > > of isms that > > > determine who gets the spotlight. > > > > > > No one is denying anyone their right to listen to what they > > > want but don't > > > forget the history. > > > > > > I spoke with a Black rocker in NYC and he told me that many > > > A & R men didn't > > > know what to do with Black guys playing soulful rock music. > > > > > > The record executive behind Digable Planets told them they > > > were not hard > > > translate "black enough" for hip-hop. > > > > > > So Juan is in the same position...... > > > > > > I don't have time to break this down anymore but Juan is > > > not crying he's > > > simply commenting on the truth; the music business is run > > > by a bunch of > > > culturally biased and/or ignorant people who have definite > > > ideas about the > > > value of the music based on their racist crap. > > > > > > if anyone does not understand where I'm coming from I will > > > make one more post > > > I don't have a lot of time to keep repeating this tired > > > story. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
