> i agree totally.  The thing that bothers me about all this electro just
blowing up right now is that it *is* just a fad.  *sigh* i just don't know.
I don't mind dj's bringing in some of the older stuff into their sets, but
now everybody and their brother is moving to produce electro tracks.  In all
honesty, i have to agree with richie on this one;  as much fun as it is to
explore older ideas, they are still just older ideas.  we're practically
digging up a rotting dead horse for one last kick in the nuts.  I'm still
looking to see what's next.

- I'd have to disagree. First of all, it isn't really electro blowing up
right now, it's electro-pop - as in 'electronic pop', not electro as pop
music. People are already confusing the two, but it's an important
distinction. Stuff like Miss Kittin & The Hacker, Felix da Housecat etc
isn't electro, it's techno with a different attitude and sound. The likes of
Tiga are more electro, granted, but the vocals add the pop edge that the
purist electro doesn't have. Secondly, the people leading this scene are the
people who've been doing it for a while - I-F being the perfect example:
he's been pushing a kind of disco-tinged techno/electro sound for years.
Same with Dopplereffekt & many more of the electro crew - at it for years. I
think it's just that the climate is right now for this robotic, synthetic
pop sound  -and by extension, for electro

With all due respect, the above statement about 'everybody & their brother'
makes it sound like every techno/electronic producer out there is suddenly
making electro instead. And they're not. People like The Advent and many
many more have been slipping electro onto their b-sides for years. Same with
the electropop producers - Hell et al have been doing it for years, it's
just now everyone has cottoned on. The(ahem) dogs are just having their day,
that's all.

I don't think electro is about 'older ideas' any more than techno is - look
at us, for example, all on this list discussing music for which the
blueprint was laid down just a few years after electro's was. Aren't we just
doing the same? Techno took up electro when hip-hop dropped it and has kept
it moving forward. In fact, you might say modern electro is more
forward-looking than techno right now: no-one makes electro tracks that go
'wicky-wicky-wack' any more, but plenty of people make still techno that
sounds like it came out of Detroit fifteen years ago. Which I don't have a
problem with per se, btw, as long as they do it well.

I also don't think the current electropop thing is as retro as people seem
to think it is. Which 80s band do Adult sound like, for example? I think
they just sound like Adult. I think people are confusing simplicity in the
music for retro. And even if people are looking backward, it's to the pop
side of things, not electro. And come to think of it, why not? Pop was
better then, with more character. Nowadays it's all just bullsh*t rap/r&b
(Oooh, a tabla! All hail King Timbaland!), 'garridge', euro trance drug toss
and nu-metal noisy rubbish. It's all cack. (Or am I just getting old?)
(Don't answer that).

Finally, 'Retro'/nostalgia is running through all aspects of the current
dance scene - there are 'ardcore nights going off in the UK, hip-hop
rediscovered its old school a few years ago with Jurassic, endless 'classic
house' compilations etc. Right now on UK TV they're advertising a classic
electro compilation. Good. About time 'the kids' learned there's more to
dance than what Radio 1 pump out.

Right, I'm done. For the moment. Now to try and install this damned
broadband software again. I may be some time...

TOM


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