Hi Janet, First off, I think I found the problem. Looking at the Firewall rules I see that the ports are being managed by application and I see both R5 and R6 are listed twice. What I did not notice right off was that the action for R6 was set to Blocked. I have changed it to Allow but will not be able to test it for several hours. 4D must be creating these rules during installation as no one here did it. Wonder why it set the action to blocked. The open ports column for both versions is set to Any.
Someone else pointed out, I think off list, that I would have a conflict with 19814. So I did a bit of testing with netstat. Based on the netstat results I don’t believe that 4D is necessarily grabbing one below and one above the set application port. netstat listed the following ports with the ports the way I had them set on the 2 servers. The ports listed are the only 4D Server ports listed as listening… (http server is not running) 1919 - SQL Server port (listening even though it is not running) 19813 - Server 1 Application port 19814 - Server 1 DB4D Port 9000 - Server 2 http port 19812 - SQL Server port (listening even though it is not running) 19815 - Server 2 Application port 19816 - Server 2 DB4D port Maybe Server 2 is continuing to listen on 19814 even though the SQL Server port is set 19812, and netstat is listing conflicted ports only once, but I don’t think so. Also if one below the application is in fact being grabbed by 4D, then 19812 would also be in conflict. I think my next netstat run confirms that 4D is not grabbing one below, only one above. Just to be sure, I bumped Server 2 ports up 1 and changed it’s SQL Server Port as well to 1918 then redid the netstat… (http server is not running) 1919 - SQL Server port (listening even though it is not running) 19813 - Server 1 Application port 19814 - Server 1 DB4D 1918 - SQL Server port (listening even though it is not running) 9000 - Server 2 http port (Microsoft SQL Server is listening on port 80) 19816 - Server 2 Application port 19817 - Server 2 DB4D Notice that there is no 19815 listed which is what I expected to see if in fact 4D was always grabbing the port one below the application port. Like I said, I am in unfamiliar territory when it comes to networking especially on windows, but what I see using ntstat seems to make some sense. Thanks for pointing out the possible conflict with 19814. John > On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:42 AM, Janet Jonas via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > When you specify port 19813, 4D is using 19812-19814. When you specify 19815, > 4D uses 19814-19816. The 2 4Ds may be clashing on port 19814. > > JJ > > >> >> Message: 12 >> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 15:38:59 -1000 >> From: John Baughman <john...@hawaii.rr.com> >> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> Subject: Re: Clients cannot see v16 R6 on windows server >> Message-ID: <b5748c33-c7f4-4a99-a2c3-a6d96f8b1...@hawaii.rr.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Maybe I was not clear about the problem. >> >> In R5 the clients can connect to the servers. The server with 19813 shows in >> Available as expected, and connections with custom IPs to either sever work >> just fine. >> In R6 the clients cannot connect to the servers at all, nothing is in the >> available tab and custom IPs do not work. >> >>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:32 PM, John Baughman <john...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote: >>> >>> I am not a very smart network guy, but if the R5 clients can connect to to >>> the R5 server:19815, wouldn’t the UDP port be open? Otherwise would not R5 >>> have the same problem that R6 is having. What am I not understanding here. >>> >>> John >>> >>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Randy Engle via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com >>>> <mailto:4d_tech@lists.4d.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> John, >>>> >>>> Have you opened the UDP ports for 19815? >>>> >>>> Randy Engle, Director >>>> XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE! >>>> >>>> >>>> I am trying to update a client running windows 2008 Server R2 Enterprise >>>> Service Pack 1 to R6. >>>> >>>> R5 works just fine, but in R6 clients cannot see the server. they are >>>> connecting using custom addresses as there are 2 servers listening on >>>> different ports, 19815 and 19813. In R5 19813 showa up in available and >>>> they can connect to both using custom IP:port. >>>> >>>> I have put them back to R5 until I can figure this out. 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