Mathias Krause wrote:
> Hi Ralf,
>
>>>> the parameters are available there
>> You can edit the parameters somewhere? What does it meant the 
>> parameters are available?
>> You can't edit them like LADSPs and without the possibility to save 
>> parameters? I guess this limitation is normal by using dssi-vst.
>
> It means, that the VST parameters are available with qtractor. They 
> are all mapped to some standard GUI elements like for the LADSPA 
> things. I can also save them, in qtractor as a king of preset. But 
> handling a lot of parameters in this style is really heavy, as they 
> are not always named very fine.
>
>> Can you post a link to or the name of a free VST that's fine with 
>> Qtractor?
>
> Here are some:
> Organized Trio (A really good hammond)
> http://www.kvraudio.com/get/682.html
>
> Superwave P8
> http://home.btconnect.com/christopherg/
>
> Rhodes:
> http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1658.html
>
> and some more...

Thank you, the effect I tested wasn't fine, now I can test those 
instruments that are fine with Qtractor for you.

>>> When I use qtractor (my favorite sequence) the VST gets loaded. I 
>>> can play sounds, and the parameters are available there. The only 
>>> thing missing is the GUI. Even the "Edit" button which leads to the 
>>> GUI in qtractor is missing. Does somebody know, where I've to 
>>> search?As far as I know, qtractor also uses vsthost.exe to start the 
>>> GUI ? To be clear enough: Sound from the VSTs is working. The only 
>>> missing thing is the GUI.
>> no, I don't think that Qtractor is using any EXE. I do also prefer 
>> Qtractor. If you are using latest CVS version of Qtractor get in 
>> touch with "Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc[ät]rncbc.org>" and please send 
>> those mails "Cc" to me, so that Rui will reply both of us. I'm using 
>> Qtractor too and from time to time I'm in touch with Rui. 
>
> Yeah. Qtractor doesn't use EXEs. What I meant was, that qtractor is 
> using some king of bridge to start the vsthost for the w32 GUI and I 
> don't know, where the problem, that it's not starting is located. I've 
> already been in contact with Rui as I tried to write some code for the 
> last qtractor version (the midi control stuff). I think I will ask him 
> and maybe he knows, where the issue is realted...

The bridge for Win VSTs is dssi-vst.

> I just posted to the list, because i thought, that somebody else is 
> using qtractor together with some vst instruments. (I can't believe 
> that all you guys, just take the rare LADSPA and native linux 
> instruments...)

As I've written in the mail before, search for DSSI, when you are 
looking for virtual instruments, but don't expect them to be even 1/100 
as good as non-free, expensive or illegal cracked VST instruments. I 
hopefully can remove the jitter for external synths, so that I don't 
need so many virtual synths. If you need virtual synth, don't make 
comparisons with proprietary Mac and Windows plugins. Maybe you need to 
do crossover projects, Windows/ Linux if you don't have external synths 
and wish to get high quality virtual synths sound quality.
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