Daniel James wrote:
> Hi Ralf,
>
>>> Ralf, simply turn off autospawn for pulse if it bothers you that much.
>
> That's perfectly possible, but it begs the question why pulseaudio is 
> needed at all in a DAW based around JACK. Fortunately we have 
> specialist and independent distros, precisely because the design 
> choices for a 'mainstream' user are often the wrong choices for 
> significant minorities of other users.
>
>>> IMHO pulse is coming along nicely. There are tweaks to improve its 
>>> performance ...
>
> This reminds me of the argument for keeping Mono in Ubuntu, because 
> "it's really not that bad, there are a couple of good applications 
> that need it" etc etc. If a design decision is bad, leading to 
> duplication and bloat, then no amount of compensating factors can make 
> it a good decision.
>
> I'm just glad that with Free Software, we are not compelled to accept 
> top-down decisions from the larger distros, in the way that Windows 
> and OS X users are.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Daniel

While we are on it: Who needs AppAmor and similar stuff for a Desktop 
computer + DAW? This is the only real disadvantage of "Linux distros", 
not of Linux in general, distros tend to include useless software. Btw. 
I tend to migrate back to KDE, so I don't have to think about 
pulseaudio. 64 Studio is fine when using KDE and every other distro I 
tested is ok for multimedia when using KDE, there are only issues when 
using GNOME. 64 Studio seems to be the only distro were using GNOME 
isn't a problem.

I received a number of mails saying, that pulseaudio will be ok for all 
users in the future. Why is it a basic for GNOME today?

I guess everyone of us discussed it in the past, so we shouldn't start a 
flame war now ;). Some people are fine with pulseaudio, other people 
aren't fine with it and a lot of people just resigned to the fact that 
pulseaudio is used when running GNOME.

Searching the audio mailing lists a lot of people aren't fine with 
pulseaudio, but they put up with it.

I do not want this, my bad ... a moment ago I'm able to use Linux for 
making music, because 64 Studio 3.0-beta is the first installation 
making this possible for my hardware ... I need to compile some 
applications to be satisfied and I still have trouble with external MIDI 
devices, but I'm able to make music.

Btw. I'm also able to make music using Suse plus pulseaudio, but on Suse 
I'm not able to use flashplayer and other usual applications.

GNOME's pulseaudio might be ok for some people, but it often is a 
problem. Pulseaudio is an argument to use KDE instated of GNOME.

Just my opinion (0.02€)
Ralf

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