Hi Jonathan: Unsure what you mean by "first". Does that relate to the fragment work or is that linked to the HC work? IOW do you agree with the plan to 1) move HC to IESG, and then 2) work on fragments and all you listed below?
Pascal > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Hui [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:59 PM > To: Anders Brandt > Cc: Zach Shelby; Pascal Thubert (pthubert); [email protected] > Subject: Re: [6lowpan] closing on update to HC draft > > > I'm fine with keeping any fragmentation fixes to a separate doc. But if we do > so, I'd prefer to first create a short draft that specifies the baseline features I > outlined in a prior mail: > > - Ability to ACK/NACK any 6lowpan packet (fragmented or not). > - Fragmentation makes no assumptions of the compression mechanism > above. > - Ability to carry arbitrary payloads in ACK/NACK. > - Carry 6lowpan packet sequence number/tag separate from MAC. > > With that, we can specify other features as needed (e.g. SACK, etc.) in > separate drafts. > > -- > Jonathan Hui > > On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Anders Brandt wrote: > > > Zach, Pascal, > > > >> Anders - are you OK with doing further work in a separate > >> fragmentation document? > > > > Sure. > > > > - Anders > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Zach Shelby > >> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 12:48 > >> To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > >> Cc: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] closing on update to HC draft > >> > >> Pascal, > >> > >> Got you, makes perfect sense. So let's just go with the: > >> > >> "We could explicitly state, for clarity, that you MUST NOT compress > >>>>>> anything outside the first fragment" > >> > >> Anders - are you OK with doing further work in a separate > >> fragmentation document? > >> > >> Zach > >> > >> On Mar 5, 2010, at 11:52 , Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Zach: > >>> > >>> I do not mind working on Anders' suggestion at all. In fact > >> I strongly > >>> support working on fragments and his proposal is a great start. > >>> > >>> I do not mind publishing a draft that just has Anders' > >> proposal in it, > >>> as long as we have a design and a clear roadmap for the rest of the > >>> fragment work where that proposal would fit - as opposed to have to > >>> deprecate it (again) 6 month from now. > >>> > >>> What I think is that HC is not the right draft for that > >> proposal. HC > >>> is about Header Compression. We won't get anywhere if we > >> keep changing > >>> the scope or adding features to this draft - or any draft. > >>> > >>> Pascal > >>> > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On > >>>> Behalf Of Zach Shelby > >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:48 PM > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: Re: [6lowpan] closing on update to HC draft > >>>> > >>>> On Mar 4, 2010, at 14:09 , Carsten Bormann wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>> We could explicitly state, for clarity, that you MUST > >> NOT compress > >>>>>> anything outside the first fragment, > >>>>> > >>>>> That is a nice editorial clarification. > >>>>> I'm in favor of adding that. > >>>> > >>>> Yep, this is the minimum required. > >>>> > >>>> Now we seem to be split on whether we need more than this. > >> Personally > >>> I > >>>> can live with the above as this is clearly the fastest way to move > >>> this draft to > >>>> the IESG, but I don't have problems with the fix suggested > >> by Anders. > >>> How > >>>> about we try to reach consensus by Friday afternoon, if we can't > >>>> agree > >>> to > >>>> agree, then we can always use this clarification. > >>>> > >>>> It would be sooo nice to have HC already to the IESG so we can > >>> concentrate > >>>> on getting ND done in Anaheim ;-) > >>>> > >>>> Zach > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> http://www.sensinode.com > >>>> http://zachshelby.org - My blog "On the Internet of Things" > >>>> http://6lowpan.net - New book - "6LoWPAN: The Wireless Embedded > >>>> Internet" > >>>> Mobile: +358 40 7796297 > >>>> > >>>> Zach Shelby > >>>> Head of Research > >>>> Sensinode Ltd. > >>>> Kidekuja 2 > >>>> 88610 Vuokatti, FINLAND > >>>> > >>>> This e-mail and all attached material are confidential and may > >>>> contain > >>> legally > >>>> privileged information. 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