On 1/24/07, Brian Friday <[email protected]> wrote:

Please do not continue to spread this nonsense. This is exactly the

I did say this was just my 2 cents.....

speech given to people switching to a VoIP provider from ATT or
something similiar. It is also patently false and your dangers with
E911 or no less than your dangers with a physical land line. If
anything the fact your cellphone has a GPS builtin makes E911 via
Cellphone a lot better than your land line.  If you have passed out

Most Cell phone calls are answered by CHP here in CA. LAPD is the only
one I know of to answer cells directly and they only began that just
last year. Most CHPs are not Phase2 to compliant. Its don't matter if
your cell phone has it or not if the receiving end cannot make use of
it.

your VoIP phone doesn't automagically shut off nor does your land
line phone, heck often the same phone you used for your land line is
in use for your VoIP service.

Go ahead call 911 form a land line, when they answer  just tell them
your doing an ALI test and they will tell you your address.

Now do it with a cell/VOIP phone. How long did it take you to get
through? Did you have to go through an automated system? Were they
able to give you your address when you told them you were doing an ALI
test?

This is my whole argument against VOIP right now. I simply can't get
right through if i needed to in most areas.


If you have ever tried VoIP you know that they require you to tell
them exactly where your phone is placed. It is for this reason that
wireless VoIP phones are not readily available in the US even though
Asia has them everywhere.

The last data I saw on Vonage which was quite a while ago was that
less then 30% of their subscribers had direct access to a 911
operator. Meaning they had to go though an automated prompt system to
get someone one the line. Which can be quite difficult to do when you
are having a heart attack or shot.

> By LAW your VoIP provider can NOT offer you service if they do not
support E911. Offering VoIP without E911 means your provider will be
stuck with a $10K fine for each day and each event.

http://www.voipmonitor.net/CommentView,guid,2595958d-3f26-4f1f-
b91f-6b2127763cef.aspx

In short google this issue, there is a lot of documentation about it
and I have specifically been at the front of dealing with this
because we use VoIP at LSU and we supply E911 information.

Colleges/Universities can be a different issue all together, many
still have key based systems. All generally intercept 911 calls and
then route them to the police as needed. Most also use a small DB that
just list DNs x2222 is (BLDG 4, 2ND FL, Rm 202). Which at some level
is manually updated and prone to error.



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