the nature of any large, all encompassing thing is to be good and evil all at the same time. proof: imagine a company (Google, Microsoft, Oracle, GE, etc.) that spans the universe. your perception of whether that thing is mostly good or mostly evil is a reflection of your belief about the nature of the universe.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:03 PM, john francis lee <[email protected]> wrote: > Isn't google the now well-known devil itself ? > > > On 07/15/2013 11:04 PM, hiro wrote: > >> Will your replacement set up a facebook or google-plus relay then? >> I thought about this already for quite some time after I've seen the >> successful migration of both tech-savy and novice users to web 2.0 >> services. There is just no way to argue against finally making it >> possible to fully exploit our modern touch-interfaces that also make >> it so trivial to include scrolling media rich content, images, videos >> without the typical mimecode problems. >> >> On 7/15/13, [email protected] <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> The comp.os.plan9 Usenet Newsgroup is a moderated Newsgroup. >>> Articles require approval before being posted. It has been >>> moderated from here, the University of Bath, since the 1990's. I, >>> the current moderator, will be leaving the University at the end of >>> this month and our Usenet server will be turned off in late August >>> of this year. So a new moderator for comp.os.plan9 is required. >>> >>> Newsgroup articles are also sent to the 9fans mailing list. >>> Messages sent to the 9fans mailing list are auto-injected into the >>> comp.os.plan9 Usenet Newsgroup. This bi-directional gateway will >>> disappear when our Usenet server is turned off. So a volunteer to >>> take over this service is also required. >>> >>> Further details of the above are given below. >>> >>> Moderating the Newsgroup isn't labour-intensive. For example I've >>> approved and posted some 18 articles in the last three months. The >>> vast majority of these articles have arrived via Google Groups. >>> >>> The moderator will need access to a Usenet system and have the right >>> to post articles to a moderated Newsgroup. I.e. articles from the >>> moderator which include an Approved: header are accepted. Volunteer >>> moderators are requested. >>> >>> I suspect the reason that moderating the Newsgroup isn't arduous is >>> that the majority of the articles in the comp.os.plan9 Newsgroup are >>> gatewayed in from the 9fans mailing list at: >>> >>> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/**wiki/plan9/mailing_lists/<http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/mailing_lists/> >>> >>> and most serious plan9 adherents are members of this mailing list. >>> >>> Currently our Usenet server acts as a bi-directional gateway. >>> The articles from the 9fans mailing list are injected into the >>> comp.os.plan9 Newsgroup and articles approved for the Newsgroup are >>> sent on to the mailing list. >>> >>> Gatewaying the 9fans mailing list into the Newsgroup will obviously >>> keep running until our Usenet server is switched off, but a >>> replacement elsewhere is ideally required. >>> >>> The minimum requirement for gatewaying mailing list articles into >>> the Newsgroup is to be subscribed to the 9fans mailing list and >>> have access to a Usenet system with the right to post articles to a >>> moderated Newsgroup. >>> >>> Manually injecting 9fans mailing list articles into the Newsgroup >>> is labour-intensive. It needs to be automated. There are probably >>> several ways of doing this, but we've set this up directly on our >>> Usenet server. Our setup is similar to the following. >>> >>> We use the mail domain mail2news.bath.ac.uk for mailing lists we >>> wish to inject into Newsgroups. Mail for this domain is handled by >>> the Usenet server, which is running exim as its MTA and INN as its >>> Usenet software. All incoming email is checked for viruses using >>> ClamAV. >>> >>> An address in the mail2news.bath.ac.uk domain is subscribed to the >>> 9fans mailing list. Email arriving for this address is checked to >>> see it has the correct envelope sender ([email protected]). >>> If so, the INN program "mailpost" is used to inject the message >>> into the Newsgroup. The "mailpost" program keeps a record of the >>> Message-ID's it has seen. So there's no problem with looping, ie >>> the attempted injection of the same message a repeated number of >>> times. >>> >>> Newsgroup articles could be injected into the mailing list by using >>> INN "news2mail" channel script. However, betraying my original >>> Cnews roots, this is done by a shell script driven by the fragment: >>> >>> # Inject articles posted to the comp.os.plan9 Newsgroup back into >>> # the mailing list, [email protected], using a locally written script. >>> # The script should include safeguards against looping, ie not >>> # re-injecting articles that originally came from the mailing list. >>> plan9mail!\ >>> :comp.os.plan9\ >>> :Tp:/opt/news/bin/plan9mail %s >>> >>> in INN's newsfeeds file. >>> >>> The above script uses the news2mail program from the antique but >>> usable newsgate.tar.Z package to send email. The anti-looping >>> checks include ensuring the Newsgroup article doesn't include a >>> header of the form: >>> >>> X-BeenThere: [email protected] >>> >>> which indicates this was a 9fans mailing list article injected into >>> Newsgroup. >>> >>> The above may sound complex, but it's fairly maintenance free once >>> set up. We clearly won't be able to continue with this service once >>> our Usenet server is decommissioned. A volunteer to set up and run >>> a similar service is required. >>> -- >>> Dennis Davis, BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK >>> [email protected] Phone: +44 1225 386101 >>> >>> >>> > -- > john francis lee > 246/3 Moo 22 > Thanon Kaew Wai > Mueang Chiangrai 57000 > Thailand > > >
