On Jun 7, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Roman Shaposhnick wrote:

On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 01:17:25PM -0600, Latchesar Ionkov wrote:
We need support for C++ and Fortran.

  Oh my! It'll be a brand new can worms to open :-(

It will use GNU binutils.

  What about libc ? Surely you can't expect UNIX applications
  to be happy without libc or better yet glibc. Do you intend
  to port it as well ?

We will try to use APE.


What I am planning to do (and that's what we agreed on the Secret
Plan 9 Secret Society Society meeting :) is just migrate dhogs changes
to the newest versions of the GNU utils.

  That is a doable thing. But I fail to see what it strives to
  accomplish on the application level, unless, of course, the other
  "secret pact" was to bring all the GNU cruft (like glibc, libstdc++,
  etc.) along the way.

We would like to convince some people that Plan9 (kernel) is a useful alternative to Linux without asking them to rewrite all their applications. Like it or not, most people won't consider spending man- months in effort just to check if an alternative is better. Especially if there is not much hype surrounding the alternative :)


  Please explain what's your next step, as far as application
  migration is concerned ?

As Ron mentioned the immediate objectives are running MPQC and some HPC benchmarks.


Thanks,
Roman.

P.S. Sorry for being harsh, but I've just suffered a long porting
effort of the same thing. And let me tell you -- C++/g++ and glibc
ain't pretty beasts. I dread the day they appear anywhere around
Plan9.

The GNU apps won't be part of the standard Plan9 distribution, so you can continue to ignore them :)

        Lucho

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