On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 01:47:02PM -0600, Latchesar Ionkov wrote:
> >>It will use GNU binutils.
> >
> >  What about libc ? Surely you can't expect UNIX applications
> >  to be happy without libc or better yet glibc. Do you intend
> >  to port it as well ?
> 
> We will try to use APE.

  That could be interesting.

> >  That is a doable thing. But I fail to see what it strives to
> >  accomplish on the application level, unless, of course, the other
> >  "secret pact" was to bring all the GNU cruft (like glibc, libstdc++,
> >  etc.) along the way.
> 
> We would like to convince some people that Plan9 (kernel) is a useful  
> alternative to Linux without  asking them to rewrite all their  
> applications. Like it or not, most people won't consider spending man- 
> months in effort just to check if an alternative is better.  
> Especially if there is not much hype surrounding the alternative :)

  True. However, even in Linux circles the idea that "GNU is not Unix,
  but sure seems like a lot of cruft" is now getting some recognition.
  Personally, I would very much welcome (to the point of participating 
  myself) any effort which aims at writing a clean C99 environment 
  (including compiler, libc, etc.) one can use without losing sanity.

  On the application front I would expect it to be a drop-in replacement
  for a glibc/gcc (may be with a couple of fixes here and there).

  Is it similar to what you have in mind ?
  
> >  Please explain what's your next step, as far as application
> >  migration is concerned ?
> 
> As Ron mentioned the immediate objectives are running MPQC and some  
> HPC benchmarks.
  
  What benchmarks are these ? Since I'm in HPC business myself (or at
  least I work for a team, that works for a company which tries to be
  in HPC business) I'm very curious to know what your expectations
  are w.r.t migrating from UNIX kernel to Plan9.

Thanks,
Roman.

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