Dipendra,
   
  Hi, this is apropos to the chain of mails by you, Sanjib, Raja, Purna Barua 
Sir, Jabnaj and me.
  We all know, agriculture education plays the most significant role in any 
developing economy by transforming traditional peasant agriculture to modern 
highly productive agriculture through generation and transfer of more 
productive and useful technologies of farming and rural living. The particular 
programme of B.Sc (Agri) education must be aimed at producing professionally 
well trained individuals to man the agriculture service and research involving 
deeply in generation of location specific knowledge of scientific agriculture. 
The shift toward the commercialization and industrialization of agriculture 
creates a demand for qualified agriculturists in international level and 
private sectors, besides a large already existing demand in the Govt. sector. 
The B.Sc(Agri) programme is geared towards professionalization with appropriate 
blending of agriculture education with humanities, social sciences, physical 
sciences, computer, business  and technology disciplines. 
  To make this proffesion a beautiful one we must start doing from the UG 
level. If we look at the demand for man power in the different sectors within 
the Farming sector i.e. the farm machinery, seeds, fertilizers, pesticides, 
management of farms and units, Research & Development and of course the 
logistics are to be considered in preparing any body for the present world.  
The direction of ones interested should be identified at UG level only to get 
best people at best places. And one must be able to tell the world, that, AAU 
provides the society a well trained Agricultural Managers. The varsity must be 
able to enroll students who will in future deliver best in their assignment and 
keep the varsity flag high at all level. A pass out must feel strong enough to 
face the present world changing speedily.
   
  I don't know how many faculty members are participating in this. Only Purna 
Barua Sir is seen communicating.
   
  Amen Saad
   
  92-A-118


Dipendra Gogoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:             Sanjib da,
   
  We have already few faculty members in this group. But we need more 
participation. At the time of launching the group, we have invited all alumni 
listed in the Alumni page of the AAU website including teachers. We had also 
invited some alumni from personal contacts and even from the community portal 
orkut. 
   
  I would like to request all the present members of thie yahoo group to invite 
more and more alumni to this group, so that we can make this forum more 
effective and visible.
   
  Thanks and Regards,
  -Dipendra
  93-A-130, 98-A(M)-37

 
  On 5/11/07, SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:             I agree with Dip who 
has made very good points. We should take this
opportunity given the VC. Dip has also pointed us to the right question,
i.e., what the mission should be for AAU in the 21st Century and given 
the fact that structural changes have taken place in the Indian (and world)
economy. Do those objectives for BSc (agri) and MSc (agri) need to be
broadened to match the need of the current and future economic realities? 
I'd think so. But how to do it is where we need input from any and all
who are concerned with and love AAU (i.e., most of us), including the VC
and AAU faculty (btw, is it possible to have them join as "guests" in 
this forum? Some fac members may be AAU graduates, so they can easily
join - please invite them if you know who they are). So, let's start
talking.

Some observations from the U.S.A. Although there is NO agricultural 
univeristy in the US (there are land-grant institutions established in
1800s specifically to train agric specialists, and I work for one -
Rutgers University), I'd be happy to do some research and compile a pkt 
that will contain the missions of these institutions, what they are doing
now, their link to the state stakeholders and govt, and future plans, etc.
Someone may want to do for other countries, such as Australia. 

At the same time, it'll be good to have a similar document compiled for
Indian agric universities for comparison and discussions and use in eventual
decision making. May be a roundtable (virtual or real) would be needed and 
the AAU VC may facilitate that when the time comes. btw, he should be kept
in touch about these developments.

Finally, in terms of those working for the farm sector (I'd put more
broadly as the agricultural, natural resources, and environmental 
sector) in the US, most agric agents who are partly state
employees and partly University employees - start the job after BS but
must get MS (i.e., specialized) within certin number of years to make
his/her job permanent. Unlike being an administrator of various schemes, 
as it typically happens in India, these county agents do work on the field
with farmers and the residents to solve their problems related to agric,
natural resources and the environment. I'll learn more about this and 
other info when I compile the document mentioned above.

-Sanjib Bhuyan   

On Fri, 11 May 2007, Dipendra Gogoi wrote:

> I guess, the very objectives of the B Sc (Agri) and M Sc (Agri) courses may
> need a change:
>
> Objective of B Sc (Agri) course: To produce agricultural generalists to
> serve the farm sector of Assam
>
> Objective of M Sc (Agri) course: To produce agricultural specialists to
> serve the farm sector of Assam 
>
> I doubt, after 1990, majority the pass outs are NOT serving the farm sector
> in Assam in any way.
>
> I would like to request the members of this group to put forward their
> suggestions for improvement of the courses and academic environment in AAU. 
> We can compile the suggestions and after coming to an agreement on the
> suggestions, we can forward it to the AAU Administration.
>
> In my last visit to Assam during February 2007, I met the VC of AAU Dr. 
> Baghel. Honourable VC told me that he will welcome any move by alumni in
> this kind of endeavour. He even told me to directly write to him if we need
> any help.
>
> Regards,
> -Dipendra 
>
>
> On 5/10/07, Sanjib Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > I've given couple of ideas in my earlier emails. I'm sure there'll be
> > more and we can come to a consensus on the best ideas and follow-up.
> >
> > -Sanjib Bhuyan
> >
> >
> >
> > **********************************************************
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> > Behalf Of *Purna Barua 
> > *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:15 AM
> > *To:* [email protected]
> > *Subject:* Re: Re: [AAU Jorhat] M.Sc (Agri)
> >
> >
> >
> > It is heartening to have read the minds of the one of
> > the most
> > forward looking alumni groups of AAU about the state 
> > of AAU's
> > academic programs. You are better judge of AAU
> > vis-a-vis the outside
> > world.
> >
> > What I would like to appeal to you now is you to come 
> > out with
> > concrete ideas/ suggestions and be more publicly
> > audible/ visible.
> > May be a newspaper reporting in Assam, holding alumni
> > roundtable here
> > (which is probably the most difficult, I guess) etc. 
> >
> > But you must impact us (AAU)with your valued ideas and
> > dreams.
> >
> > Purna Barua
> >

> > --- Dipendra Gogoi < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <dipgogoi%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > But, was there any analysis why students are not
> > > taking admission in M. Sc.
> > > (Agri) classes, and even to B. Sc. (Agri) course? 
> > >
> > > I agree with Ansari and Sanjib da about the need to
> > > restructure the courses
> > > and facilities.
> > >
> > > In plain business term "if we have NO marketability 
> > > of our produce, we
> > > are OUT of business".
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > -Dipendra
> > > 93-A-130, 98-A(M)-37
> > >
> > > 
> > > On 5/10/07, amen saad <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <amen.saad%40yahoo.com>> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OKAY diversity is always good to achieve
> > > something great. A team of
> > > > person with diverse field can yeild better, the 
> > > curriculum offered to a
> > > > B.Sc(Agri) programme and B.Sc are different, so
> > > every one there in trying
> > > > to make a good team of M.Sc(Agri) students, this 
> > > may yeild good research
> > > > works .... it seems
> > > >
  > > > > *SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <bhuyan%40aesop. rutgers.edu>>* wrote:
> > > >
> > > > well said. The role of an institution is not just 
> > > preparing its
> > > > graduates for the "market" or the business world,
> > > but to make them
> > > > worthwhile citizens of the society. Restructuring 
> > > of not only courses but
> > > > also disciplines to make it current and
> > > future-looking is absolutely imp
> > > > and necessary given the dynamic nature of 
> > > education and the real world.
> > > > While allowing non-BSc(ag) students to take MSc
> > > (ag) curricula may fulfil
> > > > the fulfill the student enrollment requirement, or 
> > > even bring in new ideas
> > > > from a few, if it done just to fulfill the
> > > enrollment requirement, then
> > > > the future is bleak. Hope there's way to address 
> > > this course of action.
> > > > AAU Unite!
> > > > -Sanjib Bhuyan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 9 May 2007, Khairul Islam Ansari wrote: 
> > > >
> > > > > It is true that we need to change the study
> > > programs, course curriculum
> > > > etc to make the degree professionally more
> > > important. Depending on the 
> > > > demand of the time, we should keep changing to
> > > improve the quality of
> > > > education. But here in AAU everything is going
> > > backward. Most of the student 
> > > > after BSc(agri) and MSc(agri) are going for seed
> > > and fertilizer companies,
> > > > where the companies provide the necessary
> > > trainings. Why AAU does not take 
> > > > the initiative in introducing agri business
> > > management type of courses. Most
> > > > of the courses were designed in 1960s or so, that
> > > world never exist now. It 
> > > > will be a foolish idea to dilute the authenticity
> > > of the degree by diluting
> > > > its specialization. This will result more
> > > unemployed lots. In true sense the 
> > > > entire University needs restructure interims of
> > > courses and facilities to
> > > > produce practically important professional in
> > > today's market agriculture 
> > > > (which is totally missing) not only for farming
> > > agriculture.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ansari
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 09 May 2007 Purna Barua wrote : 
> > > > > >I also didn't know as insider of AAU. Just seen
> > > the
> > > > > >admission bulletin in AAU website. Attached,
> > > please
> > > > > >see clause No. 10.2 E. It does say so, as
> > > apprehended
> > > > > >by the AAU-loving alumni.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Purna Barua
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >--- "amen.saad" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > How much authentic is this. If it starts
> > > happening.
> > > > > > > It will be a 
> > > > > > > junkyard in half a decade. Fame will be
> > > gone....
> > > > > > > No one will suggest that place to any new
> > > person
> > > > > > > looking for a career 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > 
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > > 55 Dudley Road
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> > > > Tel: 732.932.9155 x 213
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> > > Phone: 9448866007
> > >
> >
> > Purna K. Barua Ph. D.
> > Associate Professor
> > Department of Plant Breeding & Genetics 
> > Assam Agricultural University
> > Jorhat 785013 (India)
> > Phone: +91-376-2340098 (W), 03771-248738 (H)
> > Fax: +91-376-2340101
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> Phone: 9448866007
>
>

"You may be disappointed if you fail,
but you are doomed if you don't try." -- Beverly Sills 

Department of Agricultural, Food & Resource Economics
Rutgers University
55 Dudley Road
New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8520
Tel: 732.932.9155 x 213
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# 52, 2nd Floor 
Narayanappa Block, 6th Cross
Benson Town PO
Bangalore - 560 046, India
Phone: 9448866007   

         


       
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