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> | So I was just talking about a feature of displaying tools, not a real
> | feature of ABC.
> | For a quick hack, for me the "^17"z8 would work, but not if I would
> | extract my clarinet part from a whole partitur.
>
> The traditional staff notation also qualifies as  a  "hack"  in  this
> case, but it's a very useful one, at least for saving trees. I'd like
> to see this sort of thing included in the list of abc annotations  on
> some  approved  list.  The !...! notation might be better here, since
> that seems to be what people like  for  official  musical  directives
> such  as  !crescendo! and !da Capo! and so on.  These are all special
> cases. in this case, !23!z could be recognized as meaning "23 bars of
> rest",  and  a length on the z would be unnecessary.  Similarly, it's
> common in standard staff  notation  to  use  a  whole  rest  in  such
> measures regardless of the actual time signature.

Hmmm.  I don't know if I'd go for this.  Firstly, we already have !0! through !5! for
fingering symbols, so we wouldn't be able to do !4!z (for example); and secondly, this 
is
a "real" notation that takes up time, not an annotation, which is what !...! notation
seems to have been introduced for.  Perhaps we could go for something like Z23 and X23 
--
except that Z and X are potentially decoration characters (although I don't think 
anyone
uses them for that at the moment).  I doubt this would conflict with these being used 
as
decorations because there's no valid note character between the X or Z and the numeral.

> | I don't know how other programs than abcm2ps handle !f! symbols
> | (abc2ps doesn't), but abcm2ps prints the symbols above the music line,
> | but I would like to have it below...
> | Do we need a %%symbolsbelow tag here?
>
> The favored notation seems to be "_text",  where  the  '_'  indicates
> that  this  is  annotation that is to go below the staff.  One of the
> things on my to-do list for my doctored abc2ps is to figure  out  how
> to  get  the  text positioned correctly below the staff.  I don't yet
> know enough postscript to get this right.  Getting things printed  so
> they don't overlap in an unreadable fashion is a bit tricky ...

Actually, there's already !f! and !pp! and such things in the draft standard, and James
has implemented them in abc2midi.  In fact, he's the one who originated them. :)  These
are not just random text; rather, they are well-defined (okay, somewhat-well-defined)
musical instructions and hence go in !...! and not "...".  I think the idea is that 
text
in double quotes is just unparsed text, whereas text in exclamation points is an
instruction to the ABC program.

     - Eric

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