Eric Galluzzo writes:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| > ...  The !...! notation might be better here, since
| > that seems to be what people like  for  official  musical  directives
| > such  as  !crescendo! and !da Capo! and so on.  These are all special
| > cases. in this case, !23!z could be recognized as meaning "23 bars of
| > rest",  and  a length on the z would be unnecessary.  Similarly, it's
| > common in standard staff  notation  to  use  a  whole  rest  in  such
| > measures regardless of the actual time signature.
|
| Hmmm.  I don't know if I'd go for this.  Firstly, we already have !0! through !5! for
| fingering symbols, so we wouldn't be able to do !4!z (for example); and secondly, 
|this is
| a "real" notation that takes up time, not an annotation, which is what !...! notation
| seems to have been introduced for.

So where's the conflict?  The use of !3!  for  fingering  only  makes
sense  before a note, since there aren't any instruments (that I know
of) on which one "fingers" a rest.  So !23!z means "23  of  something
relevant  to rests", and the only common use of numbers with rests is
for multi-bar rests. We would probably want the restriction that this
notation is only valid if the z is the only thing in the measure.

We should perhaps note that at least some programs right now will let
you  use "17"z8 or "^17"z8 and will produce the right thing on paper.
The main reason you'd want to write this as !17!z is so that it  will
be  parsed  as  an  officially-recognized abc construct, and not just
random text.  But we don't *need* this; we  can  manage  with  quoted
text if nobody implements the !17!z notation.

I've also wondered if we could use a similar notation for the large %
that is commonly used to mean "repeat the previous chunk". This often
has a number that indicates how many measures  to  repeat.   So  !3!%
would  produce  a  measure  with  a  giant % superposed and a large 3
above, meaning to repeat the previous three measures.  I'd  bet  that
lots of musicians would consider this notation "obvious", once the !!
syntax is widespread.

| Actually, there's already !f! and !pp! and such things in the draft standard, and 
|James
| has implemented them in abc2midi.  In fact, he's the one who originated them. :)  
|These
| are not just random text; rather, they are well-defined (okay, somewhat-well-defined)
| musical instructions and hence go in !...! and not "...".  I think the idea is that 
|text
| in double quotes is just unparsed text, whereas text in exclamation points is an
| instruction to the ABC program.

Indeed. This might help standardize musical terminology even more.  I
like  to  show  people  a  couple  of  Bulgarian  tune  books  in  my
collection.  They have tempo indications  such  as  "kato  rachenica"
("like a rachenica"). This is, of course, totally self-explanatory to
any Balkan musician.  But I suspect it might not be so clear to  many
other people on the planet, or to a Bulgarian musician 300 years from
now.  A metronome marking just might be useful here.

(Now if I could just get a metronome that does Balkan rhythms. ;-)

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