John, you need to loosen your Goedel...
By the way, Skink handles the alternate bar stuff you posted, but I
have no idea what it "should" look like.   What would you have
expected?

wil

John Chambers wrote:

> Laura writes:
> | >>>>> "John" == John Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> |
> |     John> ABC's niche that led to its success is that it's a
> |     John> relatively simple, basic, plain-text notation that is
> |     John> compact and mailable.  It doesn't require a sophisticated
> |     John> UI; it can be typed (and read) by mere humans.
> |
> | I fail to see that ABC would be less compact or mailable if we were to
> | define the meaning in terms of pitch of "^f-|f".
>
> Heh, heh. Should I feed the troll? ;-)
>
> That really wasn't what spurred by the  "^f-|f"  top9ic;  it  was  in
> response  to  the  suggestion  that  we  absolutely  need  abc  to be
> precisely defined in all cases or else it's useless. It's easy to see
> why  people  might  like  precision  and  unambiguity, but that isn't
> likely with something as simple and compact as abc.   And  the  claim
> that  we  even  need these things is disproved by the huge success of
> "standard" (;-) staff notation.
>
> (Also, from my background as a math student I might also observe that
> Kurt  Goedel  proved that we can't even reach total precision without
> ambiguity.  But that's another topic altogether.)
>
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