On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Mike Whitaker wrote:

> > Is there some standard way to notate complex chords like m7(b5)
> > 7(b13)...?
>
> No. No two people seem to be able to agree on a standard for naming
> chords. (I speak from experience of trying to *propose* a naming
> convention for chords that would allow ABC-to-MIDI programs to parse them.)

Well just to comment on the parsing thing: remember that if I write C7 it
doesn't mean "no 9, no 13" and if I write C7(9) doesn't mean exactly the
notes CEGA_Bd. C7 means "play some kinda C dominant" and C7(9) means
"play some kinda C dominant, and if you put a nine in it, make it a d"

> The basic problems include:
>
> - people who think + means 'add' and - means 'remove'

...are wrong

> - people who think + means 'sharpen' and - means 'flatten'

...are right

> - people who think + means 'augmented'

...are right, + is shorthand for +5 so a sharpened 5th

> - what does Cb9 mean? (Cb)9, or C(b9)?

That's typical beginner confusion. If you want a flat 9 you must always
write "7" first, so C7b9. Actually alotta people will *always* write the 7
and put the extensions in brackets like C7(13), Cb7(b9,#11,b13),

> - people who can't distinguish between a single standard that allows
> chords to be machine-readable, and 'you've left my pet notation out'

I also proposed one, didn't catch on. I don't think the reason is the
above. I think only very few people use abc for jazz.
-- 
l8er
Atte

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