In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Chambers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>I. Oppenheim writes:
>| On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote:
>|
>| > Is ~ a roll or a turn?
>|
>| According to ABC 1.7.6, it's a roll:
>
>Of course, a lot of people would ask "What's the difference?" ;-) And
>a  lot  of  arrogant  musicians  (like me) would say "Who cares?" and
>interpret it as a suggestion to ornament the note,  deciding  on  the
>spur of the moment what ornament to play.

A roll can mean quite a different thing to (eg) a dulcimer or auto-harp
player and the playback would be totally different.

>
>| The + notation has since long been deprecated.
>
>Which does remind me of a suggestion I've long thought of making: Any
>Baroque  musician  is familiar with the convention that a '+' above a
>note means "Ornament this note somehow".  It's a generic,  unspecific
>ornament symbol. I personally would like it to mean this in abc. This
>really just means that '+' would be added to  the  list  of  ornament
>symbols, and the default display form is merely a '+' above the note.

That's available with "^+" notation. The ".." is for text and the ^ says
"it's not a chord symbol but the text which follows, ie a +

And I feel that if there is music out there using +..+ for chords then
you are confusing the isue.

>It should be definable, of course.  And a clever abc  player  program
>could pick a random ornament from its repertoire.

I take it that's a joke? :-)

>
>Of course, a really clever player program  could  do  this  with  any
>ornament  symbol, preferably looking at the note's length and picking
>an ornament that fits within that length.  Then the program would  be
>approaching the level of an arrogant musician.

:-)


Bernard Hill
Braeburn Software
Author of Music Publisher system
Music Software written by musicians for musicians
http://www.braeburn.co.uk
Selkirk, Scotland

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