>I use this abc for obtaining, sending, transcribing and printing
tunes 
>- I use emacs/xemacs as editor with abc-mode and then to produce
top 
>quality printed music I use jcabc2ps - what is *wrong* with the
abc2ps's ??

I think jcabc2ps was not targeted in the list of the bad
applications, of course jcabc2ps is a good "clone", and it's the
reason there is a question for merging jcabc2ps and abcm2ps (if I
understood well). The problem raised is that on the abc main page
http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/ we get the impression that
abc2ps is the best "fully tested released version" / "the latest
version with new and experimental features from Germany" while
others are vile clones : "John Chambers' clone of abc2ps /
Jean-Fran�ois Moine's clone of abc2ps", and they are presented
after the outdated Abc2ps. 
And even if Abc was developped originally for TeX, those old TeX
packages should be presented only at the end of the list, for
nostalgics. 

>I really wish I understood this hate campaign against abc2win. 
On 
>his website, Jim Vint credits a great many people who gave him
support some 
>of whom are still active on this list) so he didn't work in
isolation.  

I don't hate abc2win. On my website I still recomment it, but I
state that it's only for beginners who wish to type simple folk
tunes only because it's so limited. And now I tend to favorise
Abacus, even if the 1st release still crash from time to time.
On http://www.abc2win.com/ infos have been updated, but not the
prg. For ex. it still plays music throught the buzzer of the PC,
when it could have been maybe not so hard to have the option to
send the tune to abc2midi istead. I don't say it's compulsory the
author does that, of course, but abc2win couldn't expect in return
we consider it the most important and best abc application. I
discovered Abc with Abc2win, and learn to type abc with it, I'm
gratefull it existed at that time and I still consider it was a
good application at the moment (also for selection of tunes in a
book), but now it's a bit outdated for some other uses. For ex. it
can't directly print a whole book of tunes on several pages. The
problem was raised recently.
I used my Atari with pleasure, but I'm glad better computers
arrived on the market, and programmer didn't released later
software still compatible with Atari. Even Abc2win couln't run on
the DOS emulator I had on it :)

>> using abcpp I've fixed lots of legacy ABC files. It would be
nice if 
>there
>> were a web-based "translation service" based on abcpp. I have
no
>> experience on writing web applets; any hints?

>Although the list seems to be dominated by the Windows and Linux
users,
>don't forget in designing standards that there are a fair number
of
>Macintosh users who use abc too. Solutions that aren't compatible
with 
>our
>computers don't do us much good! Therefore the idea of a
web-based
>translation service sounds particularly good to me.

About Macintosh, so far I couldn't check how Barfly behaves. I've
made it work on an emulator recently, and I liked it, but I had to
convert my tunes to make them display when each V: label occurs
only once (on big score it's less readable, but not on smaller
ones), and the %midi transpose commands weren't supported. I find
more conveniant to use such a command for transposing -24 and to
type something like G2 G>G A2-A>B instead of G,,2 G,,>G,,
A,,2-A,,>B,, 

About a translation service, for converting whole set of tunes to
pdf it could be a good idea. JC's Tune finder can do this for
single tunes, but not for user's tunebook I think.




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