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>Bernard wrote-
>
>> 2. |: at the beginning of a section is not ugly. And I do
>> not like being forced to accept incorrect notation in that
>> if a |: is missing then the repeat should be made from the
>> previous double bar.
>
>But it *is* ugly at the beginning of a piece. Apparently,
>Beethoven agreed. Open the score of any of his symphonies (or
>any other classical "sonata-allegro" movement, for that
>matter) and note that there is no opening |: although the
>first section repeats. It cannot be bad abc to preserve this.

I did not say "beginning of a piece" I said "beginning of a section". It
has always been standard notation to assume the first repeat is from the
beginning of the work. We are talking about

.... | ..... | .... | .... :|
.... | ..... | .... | .... :|

which is ambiguous. And should maybe be

.... | ..... | .... | .... :|
|:.. | ..... | .... | .... :|

I am always happy to keep the assumed back to the beginning repeat in
stave 1 above. It's the 2nd stave of the top I object to.


>
>Also, Irwin: a minor request: All over your page, you use
>"`" and "'" as open and close quotes, respectively when
>referring to symbols. The first one, in particular, looks so
>odd that one is tempted to think it is part of the notation
>being referred to. Couldn't you use ' or " or even curly quotes
>instead to make it flow more smoothly?

Hear, hear. Either use back and forth quotes � � (Latin-1 charset
decimal 145 and 146) or standard ' (decimal 39) for both. To mix `
(ascii 96) with ' is very untidy and illogical.


Bernard Hill
Braeburn Software
Author of Music Publisher system
Music Software written by musicians for musicians
http://www.braeburn.co.uk
Selkirk, Scotland

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