On Jan 21, 2004, at 3:18 PM, Jack Campin wrote:
Yes, I've posted two or three fairly detailed proposals over the years, covering both playback and printing.
I did not find them in the archive. Can you give me a pointer?
A lot of middle eastern (Turkish, Arabic, Persian, etc...) music is based on a quarter-tone (24 division) system; or in the case of some Turkish music up to 48 (or even more) divisions of the octave.
No they aren't. Quarter-tones are sometimes used in modern texts (particularly Arabic ones) as an approximation to the real thing, but the underlying model of Middle Eastern and Indian-subcontinent music is much more sophisticated.
Indeed, what I should have said is: "lot of middle eastern music *representation*"
As you point out the practice is much more complicated... and as a
matter of practice is traditionally not written down (not that we
should resist our western need to write everything down: have at!)
place to start in identifying the issues (he makes a clear distinction what what happens notationally and what actually goes on in practice, something Turkish sources tend not to do - there are situations where you want to notate theoretical rather than actual intonation, just as there are in Western diatonic music).
yes.
I agree with your technical suggestions.
As a next incremental step:
On Jan 21, 2004, at 12:49 PM, John Chambers wrote:
This does seem like a possibly desirable use of the substitution-type "macro". I've seen microtone notation that uses an assortment of symbols. If we allowed notation like ^3/24, people might not always want to type all that.
John- What did you mean by this? Do you refer to the !something! notation?
Or is there some *real* macro proposal?
-Jas
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