hi Randy, try this route, it worked out here ok:
a. go to each machine in turn, and run the venueclient as a personal node (VenueClient.py --personalNode). If any cert request wizards pop up, cancel them (over and over) til they go away. you need each venue client to run cleanly as a personal node without grumbling - that should mean all certs and IDs are good, and proxies are fine on each unit. you should get a local log on all three machines to let you know whats occuring. if you need to, reimport IDs and certs from the Venue Client > preferences > Manage Certificates menus You can check they are all Ok there also. Only ANL issued certs and IDs are anygood in the longterm. Importing other CAs and IDs doesnt totally work last we tried. Take some time to check all cert parts. The default ID, a globus CA and ANL CA cert are needed, and should be imported in sequence (globus CA , ANL CA , then personal cert). If you reimport - try removing all the older IDs and reimporting. I keep a floppy to hand with both CA certs and my trusty ANL ID for this tasks. Paranoid maybe, but a good clear out works wonders 9/10 times. (By the by - it is very vital you export a safe, known good copy of your ID for later use and retrieval). when each machine runs venue client with personal node services cleanly, you can set up the wider multimachine options. I would not try too much further til this step works, and you can start VenueClient with personal node services on each unit manually. Also, dont waste time 'managing' your node yet (adding services etc)- all those parts change later. You should not at this stage be running any other tools manually. No command line Node services or Ag service managers - just the VenueClient.py with the --personalNode option. try to get away from older AGTK thinking - theres a lot of differences, largely undocumented (sorry Ivan, but there is ;) b. choose a machine that your users will typically start the toolset from. (Almost always this is the display PC). This machine will continue to run : VenueClient.py --personalNode Make sure the shortcut or script file includes this option. Never attempt to manually script AGServiceManager or NodeManagementService etc to run on this (the lead) machine - always let the VenueClient start personal node services as needed for you (it will actually start AGServiceManager and NodeManager(?) for you). c. On all other machines, set AGServiceManager to run as default through whatever scripting system you want to use. Only AGServiceManager is needed. Its best to create long proxies on these machines for this reason, as these services will rarely be used interactively later. No command line options need be specified. d. With AGServiceManager running on the slave machines, start up VenueClient --personalNode on your lead machine. e. Chose the VenueClient > preferences > Manage my node option, and the node managment app should pop up. by default the localhost will be in there with little else. you should be able to choose Service manager > Add.. from the menu and add the other two service managers by IP address. (Only AGServiceManager.py needs to be running on these to make this choice work). f. If you get this far successfully, and have three service managers listed, you are home and dry. Add/remove and edit your services as required across all three machines. when you are happy, choose File >Store Configuration from the Node Management app. You can choose the default configuration, and check use as default, and all your changes should stay put, for all users of the machine. In future, always boot all three machines. make sure AGServiceManager runs as standard on the two slave units. On the main lead unit, simply run VenueClient with personalNode services enabled - on windows just click the desktop shortcut, as --personalNode is already included in that. The personal Node charaterisation is a bit of a misnomer in this for sure, but no one sees it. And this way the config stays put over reboots and correctly starts required services on each unit automatically. Other routes will see your config and services choices disappearing after reboots (if you get that far) and its a right work up. Hope this helps get you going sooner rather than later, or at least shakes something concrete loose to debug. bye lewis -- Lewis Grantham LLB MSc Project Leader Media Resources (Multimedia Unit) Windeyer Building Cleveland St London W1T 4JF Tel:0044(0)2076799258 Fax:0044(0)2075800995