Hi Rich.

I am referring to content as well (well, also XUL).  I had thought there 
was more distinction between (right vs left mouse button) context menus 
and popups, but I see now they are commonly discussed with the same 
meaning. We don't expose has popup for the default browser context, no :)

XUL has three ways of connecting popup content:
1. Plain popup (uses attribute "popup")
2. Context popup (uses attribute "context")
3. Tooltips
(https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XUL_Tutorial/Popup_Menus)

Alexander noticed we could expose 1 and 2 separately if folks wanted us 
to... but maybe it isn't that important. What do others think?

cheers,
David

On 05/04/10 2:24 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
> David,
>
> When a page author creates their own context menu is when you should have
> haspopup. The style gide says to use the same key strokes I believe. That
> essentially would steal the strokes from the browser.
>
> I am referring to has popup in content and not the browser mapping. You
> don't generate haspopup for the browser context menu now do you?
>
> Rich Schwerdtfeger
> CTO Accessibility Software Group
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> Even though we could expose haspopup when we know there is a context menu
> I'm not as sure we should since the way to invoke it is different. The user
> would hear has popup, click (space bar) the widget and find no popup (since
> it is a right click, menu key, shift-f10 that normally invokes the context
> menu).
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> cheers,
> David
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> On 05/04/10 11:57 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
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>        I understand the use case ... A button may have a drop down menu and
>        a
>        context menu but would argue that having multiple pop-up menus of any
>        form
>        on an element is confusing. It would be better to simply have
>        haspopup. and
>        require the author to have one menu.
>
>        Rich
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>        Rich Schwerdtfeger
>        CTO Accessibility Software Group
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>        I don't think there is a difference between a "context" menu and a
>        "pop-up"
>        menu. There are no roles distinguishing between these two types of
>        menus.
>        And even saying they are two types of menus is specious. Some menus
>        emanate
>        from the menu bar, and some do not. But after that, they're all the
>        same.
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>        I am one user among many, but I don't feel a need for this.
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>        Thanks,
>        RG
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>        -----Original Message-----
>        From: [email protected]
>        [?mailto:[email protected].] On
>        Behalf Of
>        Pete Brunet
>        Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:18 PM
>        To: Alexander Surkov
>        Cc: [email protected]; Hans Hillen; Marco
>        Zehe
>        Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] hascontext state
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>        That seems like a good idea.  What do others think?  -Pete
>
>        Alexander Surkov wrote:
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>              Hi.
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>              It might be handy to have hascontext state to indicate the
>              accessible
>              has associated context menu. I realize it's very usual for
>              sighted
>              users to right mouse click everywhere checking for context
>              menu.
>              However it sounds it's not very comfortable for AT users to
>              press
>              shift+F10 on every element. This leads AT users might not know
>              there
>              is context menu. If we would have hascontext state then the
>              thing must
>              be much easier since AT could announce the context menu
>              presence like
>              it happens for popup menus. What do you think?
>
>              Thank you.
>              Alex.
>    

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