Jamie, Andres, all could you please to take a look at the proposal and
comment it out here?
Thanks!
Alex.

[1]
http://git.linuxfoundation.org/?p=a11y/ia2.git;a=commitdiff;h=85deaf1a1514f0c5e6a59e8c9b6606abfb6e6813

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Alexander Surkov <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok, so here's a change [1]. Looking for your feedback.
> Thanks!
> Alexander.
>
> [1]
> http://git.linuxfoundation.org/?p=a11y/ia2.git;a=commitdiff;h=85deaf1a1514f0c5e6a59e8c9b6606abfb6e6813
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Andres Gonzalez <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Alex and Jamie:
>>
>>
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> I'm good to keep that out of box for now as long as we do a generic
>> approach so later we can update just docs.
>>
>> Andres, what do you think?
>>
>> How we are going to proceed with active/anchor boundaries? Let's move
>> with a proper naming vs one extra member?
>>
>> <<<
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Agree with Alex that we should get the method signature as generic as
>> possible, so that we don’t have to change it later. But we can have the
>> first implementation focusing on the text only case and make sure it works
>> well there, since this is the case that motivated the addition of the new
>> method. I believe we’ll find that it will be easily extensible to selection
>> of objects in a container. Also agree to renaming the member vars to
>> anchorOffset/activeOffset, or Index instead of offset. As for range
>> boundaries, I like to follow the convention in C++ ranges and many other
>> ranges where the start is inclusive and the end is exclusive. For instance,
>> in the string “abc”, range (0,1) = “a”, range (2,3) = “c”, range
>> (0,lengthof(“abc”)) = “abc”, etc. range (x,x) is an empty or degenerated
>> range for any x and means no selection.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> --Andres.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Alexander Surkov [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:35 AM
>> *To:* James Teh
>> *Cc:* Andres Gonzalez; [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [Accessibility-ia2] a new method to retrieve the selection
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 5:12 PM, James Teh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/11/2015 12:28 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess it isn't an edge case after all. I was originally confused by
>> using child indexes in the case of no text, as this seems strange to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure where we are on this idea. Do you think we'd rather drop it?
>>
>> Personally, I'd rather have a separate mechanism to deal with selected
>> objects in a container. I think it's just going to get too confusing
>> otherwise.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm good to keep that out of box for now as long as we do a generic
>> approach so later we can update just docs.
>>
>> Andres, what do you think?
>>
>> How we are going to proceed with active/anchor boundaries? Let's move
>> with a proper naming vs one extra member?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't really follow this. As I understand it, selection starts are
>> inclusive and selection ends are exclusive. So, why are we talking about
>> "before" a child? If you have 4 children and children 2 and 3 are selected,
>> IMO, the start offset should be 1 (the selection starts at the second
>> child) and the end offset should be 3 (the selection ends after the third
>> child). Maybe this is just terminology; it doesn't really matter so long as
>> we agree on the numbers. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I have clear understanding how values differs for inclusive
>> and exclusive end boundaries. Can you give me please an example for, say,
>> when a container has one child and it is selected, i.e selection starts
>> before it and ends after it?
>>
>> The way I think of text (and maybe this is wrong visually), if you have
>> the string "a" and you select it, the selection starts *at* the "a" and
>> ends *after* it. So, in that case, start would be 0 and end would be 1.
>> Similarly, if you have just one child, start would be 0 and end would be 1.
>> I have a feeling we're actually talking about the same thing, but you see
>> the seleciton as starting "before", not "at".
>>
>> Jamie
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> James Teh
>>
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>
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