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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions?


> you are right sir, i wish to give one example, in recent commonwealth 
> games
> our government sent popular film stars to represent our country for only 
> ten
> minute show and they paid them at least 10 crore rupees.  our players are
> still struggling to purchase a second class railway ticket to join their
> practice camps.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions?
>
>
>> We are certainly not raising concessions as a rights issue, but merely
>> discussing it in the light of 'who benefits more from it'. I would not
>> like to make it a rights issue, but certainly everyone, including the
>> companies who spend more for adds and who are under some obligation to
>> spend for Corporate Social Responsibility initiatives must seriously see
>> the logic and the benefits.
>>
>> Subramani
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abhijit
>> Joshi
>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:37 PM
>> To: RAJAT; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions?
>>
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>> this seams the right and positive attitude  to me. I know with my day to
>> day
>> experience that if we can co-ordinate with visual persons with equal and
>>
>> positive attitude those people help us. concession  and reservation are
>> only
>> helping tool not a solution. If anybody is giving concession or
>> reservation
>> we should welcome it but we should not take as right. remember other's
>> duty
>> is not our rights
>> Abhijit
>> Hyderabad
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "RAJAT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions?
>>
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Aren't we coming to somewhere near the concept of creamy layer among
>> > ourselves. Those who require and those who do not. But, one thing for
>> sure
>> > we all want the disabled friendly/fully accessible  environment. Can
>> this
>> > happen with concessions?
>> >
>> > Its a common practice that if you want additional features./facilities
>> you
>> > have to pay more for that. And if we are getting the facilities we
>> demand
>> > then we should come forward and pay for that.
>> >
>> > We should also not forget that Income tax department, Govt. of India
>> gives
>> > tax deduction under section 80u of Rs. 75,000 or 50,000 as the case
>> may be
>> > and its also for those parents who have a disabled child. This is
>> given to
>> > compensate for the hardship we face in our day to day life. Is this
>> not a
>> > big relief?
>> >
>> > Also if I am not wrong persons under VH and OH category but not HH,
>> get
>> > double the conveyance/transport allowance then other govt. employees
>> get.
>> >
>> > I believe we should demand for more and more facilities/equal
>> > participation
>> > in education, transport, banking, building by laws,  .... And
>> concessions
>> > should be for those who really need them.
>> >
>> > Correct me if I am wrong.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Rajat agarwal
>> > New Delhi
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:33 PM
>> > Subject: [AI] Who should pay for concessions?
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Having followed the thread on DGCA guidelines and the subsequent
>> > discussion
>> >> of concessions for the blind or escorts, I have been thinking about
>> it
>> >> for
>> > a
>> >> couple of days.
>> >>
>> >> I feel that in our country, the existence of public sector in
>> businesses
>> >> like transport and education has benifitted persons with blindness.
>> If
>> >> all
>> >> the industry and utility services were run by private firms, I don't
>> > imagine
>> >> they would come forward with so many concessions and exemptions for
>> us.
>> >> Providing concessions is much simpler for public sector or
>> government.
>> >> However, this raises a big question of who should eventually pay for
>> the
>> >> concessions?
>> >>
>> >> As citizens of the country, we are entitled to lead a life which
>> closely
>> >> resembles a sighted or normal person who doesn't have a disability.
>> This
>> >> obviously entails extra expenditure because of various reasons. To
>> offset
>> >> this additional cost, concessions and exemptions are provided. I
>> strongly
>> >> feel that since the government collects taxes from individuals as
>> well as
>> >> businesses in the private sector, it should be the one paying for
>> these
>> >> concessions. If the Railways were privatised, the cost of providing
>> >> concession to blind persons should be born by the government and not
>> by
>> > the
>> >> private company which runs the railways. If a private company
>> voluntarily
>> >> comes forward with concessions, it is a very good gesture on their
>> part.
>> > But
>> >> if concessions are imposed by law, the cost of these concessions
>> should
>> >> be
>> >> reimbursed.
>> >>
>> >> For instance, when most of the other passengers of airlines were
>> paying
>> > full
>> >> fair for their tickets, blind persons were only paying half. If we
>> put
>> >> the
>> >> social argument of concession aside for a while, the airline company
>> was
>> >> loozing money by carrying blind passengers. The airline company in
>> > question
>> >> also pays the same tax irrespective of offering concessions. So,
>> there is
>> > no
>> >> insentive at all for the airline company by carrying blind
>> passengers. On
>> >> the contrary, the company gets less money.
>> >>
>> >> I think it is the responsibility of the government to provide or pay
>> for
>> > the
>> >> concessions as they should look after the welfare of its citizens.
>> >> Private
>> >> companies or public sector companies for that matter should never be
>> > forced
>> >> to bear the cost of concessions.
>> >>
>> >> What do you all think about this? I know this is never going to
>> happen in
>> >> India.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Kiran.
>> >>
>> >>
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