the private companies are not doin any favour to us. they would have calculated and premeditated before diclairing there charges that if blinds will come then they will take back money from other persons. and we should not forget that our whole family is not blind! they give the full charges. in this way, the company takes back what ever concession it has given to us. it has been pointed out by dr. jain the ricksha thing. in this way, blinds nt benefet the rickshaman, but the feul company. also, they have put a certain limmet for concessions. remember mr. aruni's case. literally we are benefetting the private companies and (the aa admi). this is my humble opinion. please correct me if I am wrong. here,I want to add that this makes me remember of water cycle process, which I studied.
>From: "Dr Rakesh Jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:39:11 +0530 > >Dear KIran, is it possible not to include original message while replying >on >our list as it will cut down drastically the amount of data download and in >any case, we do have previous mails related with the one in question! > >Dr. Rakesh Jain >Mobile (Reliance): 09336787900 >Mobile (BSNL): 09415787900 >Residence: 05224001112 and 05222732345 >Skype ID: dr.rjain > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:56 PM >Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > > > > you are right sir, i wish to give one example, in recent commonwealth > > games > > our government sent popular film stars to represent our country for only > > ten > > minute show and they paid them at least 10 crore rupees. our players >are > > still struggling to purchase a second class railway ticket to join their > > practice camps. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > > > > > >> We are certainly not raising concessions as a rights issue, but merely > >> discussing it in the light of 'who benefits more from it'. I would not > >> like to make it a rights issue, but certainly everyone, including the > >> companies who spend more for adds and who are under some obligation to > >> spend for Corporate Social Responsibility initiatives must seriously >see > >> the logic and the benefits. > >> > >> Subramani > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abhijit > >> Joshi > >> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:37 PM > >> To: RAJAT; [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > >> > >> *********************** > >> No virus was detected in the attachment no filename > >> > >> Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. > >> *********************** > >> > >> > >> this seams the right and positive attitude to me. I know with my day >to > >> day > >> experience that if we can co-ordinate with visual persons with equal >and > >> > >> positive attitude those people help us. concession and reservation are > >> only > >> helping tool not a solution. If anybody is giving concession or > >> reservation > >> we should welcome it but we should not take as right. remember other's > >> duty > >> is not our rights > >> Abhijit > >> Hyderabad > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "RAJAT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:57 PM > >> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > >> > >> > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > Aren't we coming to somewhere near the concept of creamy layer among > >> > ourselves. Those who require and those who do not. But, one thing for > >> sure > >> > we all want the disabled friendly/fully accessible environment. Can > >> this > >> > happen with concessions? > >> > > >> > Its a common practice that if you want additional >features./facilities > >> you > >> > have to pay more for that. And if we are getting the facilities we > >> demand > >> > then we should come forward and pay for that. > >> > > >> > We should also not forget that Income tax department, Govt. of India > >> gives > >> > tax deduction under section 80u of Rs. 75,000 or 50,000 as the case > >> may be > >> > and its also for those parents who have a disabled child. This is > >> given to > >> > compensate for the hardship we face in our day to day life. Is this > >> not a > >> > big relief? > >> > > >> > Also if I am not wrong persons under VH and OH category but not HH, > >> get > >> > double the conveyance/transport allowance then other govt. employees > >> get. > >> > > >> > I believe we should demand for more and more facilities/equal > >> > participation > >> > in education, transport, banking, building by laws, .... And > >> concessions > >> > should be for those who really need them. > >> > > >> > Correct me if I am wrong. > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > Rajat agarwal > >> > New Delhi > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:33 PM > >> > Subject: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > >> > > >> > > >> >> Hi all, > >> >> > >> >> Having followed the thread on DGCA guidelines and the subsequent > >> > discussion > >> >> of concessions for the blind or escorts, I have been thinking about > >> it > >> >> for > >> > a > >> >> couple of days. > >> >> > >> >> I feel that in our country, the existence of public sector in > >> businesses > >> >> like transport and education has benifitted persons with blindness. > >> If > >> >> all > >> >> the industry and utility services were run by private firms, I don't > >> > imagine > >> >> they would come forward with so many concessions and exemptions for > >> us. > >> >> Providing concessions is much simpler for public sector or > >> government. > >> >> However, this raises a big question of who should eventually pay for > >> the > >> >> concessions? > >> >> > >> >> As citizens of the country, we are entitled to lead a life which > >> closely > >> >> resembles a sighted or normal person who doesn't have a disability. > >> This > >> >> obviously entails extra expenditure because of various reasons. To > >> offset > >> >> this additional cost, concessions and exemptions are provided. I > >> strongly > >> >> feel that since the government collects taxes from individuals as > >> well as > >> >> businesses in the private sector, it should be the one paying for > >> these > >> >> concessions. If the Railways were privatised, the cost of providing > >> >> concession to blind persons should be born by the government and not > >> by > >> > the > >> >> private company which runs the railways. If a private company > >> voluntarily > >> >> comes forward with concessions, it is a very good gesture on their > >> part. > >> > But > >> >> if concessions are imposed by law, the cost of these concessions > >> should > >> >> be > >> >> reimbursed. > >> >> > >> >> For instance, when most of the other passengers of airlines were > >> paying > >> > full > >> >> fair for their tickets, blind persons were only paying half. If we > >> put > >> >> the > >> >> social argument of concession aside for a while, the airline company > >> was > >> >> loozing money by carrying blind passengers. The airline company in > >> > question > >> >> also pays the same tax irrespective of offering concessions. So, > >> there is > >> > no > >> >> insentive at all for the airline company by carrying blind > >> passengers. On > >> >> the contrary, the company gets less money. > >> >> > >> >> I think it is the responsibility of the government to provide or pay > >> for > >> > the > >> >> concessions as they should look after the welfare of its citizens. > >> >> Private > >> >> companies or public sector companies for that matter should never be > >> > forced > >> >> to bear the cost of concessions. > >> >> > >> >> What do you all think about this? 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