Hope, Mr. Kiran is also reading this message. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shahbaz Ali Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: [AI] Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East
> Help Stop the Bloodshed in the Middle East > Dear friends, > Right now a tragedy is unfolding in the Middle East. Hundreds of > civilians have died in the bombings in Lebanon, Israel and Palestine > and the death toll is rising every day. > UN Secretary General Kofi Annan has called for an immediate ceasefire > and UK Prime Minister Tony Blair has joined Annan in calling for the > deployment of international troops to the Israel-Lebanon border. This > is the best proposal yet to stop the violence, but for it to succeed > other global leaders need to get behind it immediately. > I have just signed a petition urging regional and global leaders to > speak out and support Kofi Annan's proposal. If people around the > world can persuade their governments to unite in demanding a > ceasefire, all sides in this conflict will be pressured to stand > down. Can you sign the petition too? > http://www.ceasefirecampaign.org > > The petition will be sent to key regional and global leaders and > publicized in major newspapers in the Middle East, US and Europe. > With enough signatures we can help pressure our leaders to stop the > violence. > Thanks! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:27 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? > > >> It's very true. While the Colas like Pepsi and Coke are >> manufactured for just 90P, they are sold for Rs 10 or more, precisely >> because the company concerned wants to recover the advertising revenue, >> which may perhaps include the money they pay for cricketers and celebs >> for carrying their logo on their kit or on their costume. >> >> Subramani >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr Rakesh >> Jain >> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:23 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >> >> *********************** >> No virus was detected in the attachment no filename >> >> Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. >> *********************** >> >> >> Dear Sir, don't you think that each TV channel with a number of costly >> advertisements is a direct burden on the pocket of common human being, >> whether one watches that channel or not! Now, if the common man or the >> government has to pay little for the benefit of the less fortunate ones, >> it >> does not really matter much to the government. In private sector, >> companies >> spend crores of rupees on publicity and so-called staff welfare! As the >> there is something which is universally accepted, that is, corporate >> social >> responsibilities ( C S R). and, if they will not come forward to make >> the >> society beautiful, who will to it! And, you would definitely agree to it >> >> that, we as disabled persons, have to spend alot, have to tax on our >> limited >> resources much more than the non-disabled persons. If the government can >> >> continued to extend concessions, reservations and other facilities to >> the SC >> and ST and OBC categories, the blind people really deserve government' >> proper estimation of the situation. thanks. >> is Dr. Rakesh Jain >> Mobile (Reliance): 09336787900 >> Mobile (BSNL): 09415787900 >> Residence: 05224001112 and 05222732345 >> Skype ID: dr.rjain >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pranav Lal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:42 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >> >> >>> Kiran, >>> >>> My concern with consessions is that if the government pays for them >> then >>> this will translate into higher taxes. For the private sector, it >>> translates >>> into a loss so I am unsure whether consessions are viable in the first >>> place. >>> >>> Pranav >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaja, >> Kiran >>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:23 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >>> >>> I think my original point is diluted. I never said concessions should >>> not be provided. Instead, if you all read my original mail on this >>> topic, I mention that concessions cannot be done away with no matter >> how >>> good the facilities are. My original point is who needs to pay for >> these >>> concessions. Does the government have to pay for them or the service >>> providers and manufacturers of goods and services which are private >>> companies. Also, which of the methods is desirable for us consumers. >> If >>> the government decides and pays for the concessions, we need not >> request >>> or demand any private company to provide them and be at their mercy. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Kiran. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sameer >>> latey >>> Sent: Friday, 11 August 2006 11:10 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >>> >>> >>> Dear Friends, >>> >>> 1. Only those blind individuals who are earning enough >>> to have to pay tax can take advantage of the tax >>> concessions like Section 80U. >>> 2. Most of the blind individuals are residing in the >>> rural areas and do not earn enough to pay taxes. >>> 3. It is these people who require concessions and >>> therefore concessions are required. >>> 4. I agree that we must not demand concessions as a >>> matter of right but as a tool to even the playing >>> field. >>> 5. At the same time, we must be vigilant to ensure >>> that the concessions granted are implemented and not >>> merely paper proposals. >>> >>> Regards >>> Sameer >>> --- Dr Rakesh Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> don't you think that concessions are meant for >>>> masses and not for classes >>>> like some of us who can really afford to manage >>>> without concessions and if >>>> we start a discussion that leads to a concession >>>> free world; we are going to >>>> cause a big loss to our less fortunate brotherens! >>>> >>>> Dr. Rakesh Jain >>>> Mobile (Reliance): 09336787900 >>>> Mobile (BSNL): 09415787900 >>>> Residence: 05224001112 and 05222732345 >>>> Skype ID: dr.rjain >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Chetan Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:28 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >>>> >>>> >>>> > same here. >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > To: "K Ramkrishna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >>>> > <[email protected]> >>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:18 PM >>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>i received three copies of this message. >>>> >> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >> From: "K Ramkrishna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >> To: <[email protected]> >>>> >> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 12:53 PM >>>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Dear Kiran, >>>> >>> How do we justify that VIPs should be extended >>>> various tax concessions >>>> >>> in >>>> >>> the backdrop of the argument that government >>>> should fund our concessions >>>> >>> from its tax collections? Doesn't it become >>>> double counting? On one >>>> >>> hand, >>>> >> we >>>> >>> are asking for concessions in the charges for >>>> various services and also >>>> >> the >>>> >>> same in taxes, from where, the government has to >>>> fund such concessions? >>>> >>> I >>>> >> am >>>> >>> only asking for the reaction of AI members, as >>>> this issue will come up >>>> >>> sooner or later. >>>> >>> regards >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>> From: "Subramani L" >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:33 AM >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Who should pay for >>>> concessions? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> > Kiran: >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > This's what I exactly argue in my Ph.D thesis. >>>> Your point makes >>>> >>> > perfect >>>> >>> > sense. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > Subramani >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> >>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>> > >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>> Behalf Of Kiran >>>> >>> > Kaja >>>> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:34 PM >>>> >>> > To: [email protected] >>>> >>> > Subject: [AI] Who should pay for concessions? >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > *********************** >>>> >>> > No virus was detected in the attachment no >>>> filename >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > Your mail has been scanned by InterScan MSS. >>>> >>> > *********************** >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > Hi all, >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > Having followed the thread on DGCA guidelines >>>> and the subsequent >>>> >>> > discussion >>>> >>> > of concessions for the blind or escorts, I >>>> have been thinking about it >>>> >>> > for a >>>> >>> > couple of days. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > I feel that in our country, the existence of >>>> public sector in >>>> >>> > businesses >>>> >>> > like transport and education has benifitted >>>> persons with blindness. If >>>> >>> > all >>>> >>> > the industry and utility services were run by >>>> private firms, I don't >>>> >>> > imagine >>>> >>> > they would come forward with so many >>>> concessions and exemptions for >>>> >>> > us. >>>> >>> > Providing concessions is much simpler for >>>> public sector or government. >>>> >>> > However, this raises a big question of who >>>> should eventually pay for >>>> >>> > the >>>> >>> > concessions? >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > As citizens of the country, we are entitled to >>>> lead a life which >>>> >>> > closely >>>> >>> > resembles a sighted or normal person who >>>> doesn't have a disability. >>>> >>> > This >>>> >>> > obviously entails extra expenditure because of >>>> various reasons. To >>>> >>> > offset >>>> >>> > this additional cost, concessions and >>>> exemptions are provided. I >>>> >>> > strongly >>>> >>> > feel that since the government collects taxes >>>> from individuals as well >>>> >>> > as >>>> >>> > businesses in the private sector, it should be >>>> the one paying for >>>> >>> > these >>>> >>> > concessions. If the Railways were privatised, >>>> the cost of providing >>>> >>> > concession to blind persons should be born by >>>> the government and not >>>> >>> > by >>>> >>> > the >>>> >>> > private company which runs the railways. If a >>>> private company >>>> >>> > voluntarily >>>> >>> > comes forward with concessions, it is a very >>>> good gesture on their >>>> >>> > part. >>>> >>> > But >>>> >>> > if concessions are imposed by law, the cost of >>>> these concessions >>>> >>> > should >>>> >>> > be >>>> >>> > reimbursed. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > For instance, when most of the other >>>> passengers of airlines were >>>> >>> > paying >>>> >>> > full >>>> >>> > fair for their tickets, blind persons were >>>> only paying half. If we put >>>> >>> > the >>>> >>> > social argument of concession aside for a >>>> while, the airline company >>>> >>> > was >>>> >>> > loozing money by carrying blind passengers. >>>> The airline company in >>>> >>> > question >>>> >>> > also pays the same tax irrespective of >>>> offering concessions. So, there >>>> >>> > is no >>>> >>> > insentive at all for the airline company by >>>> carrying blind passengers. >>>> >>> > On >>>> >>> > the contrary, the company gets less money. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > I think it is the responsibility of the >>>> government to provide or pay >>>> >>> > for >>>> >>> > the >>>> >>> > concessions as they should look after the >>>> welfare of its citizens. >>>> >>> > Private >>>> >>> > companies or public sector companies for that >>>> matter should never be >>>> >>> > forced >>>> >>> > to bear the cost of concessions. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > What do you all think about this? 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