Very true sir. It is so surprising that we have apologists for mainstream and IIM's amongst us. Reservation is primarily needed to bring social justice and give the forgotten and neglected ones their well deserved right. Let me remind the list of a case in bihar when an SC candidate got just one mark out of 500 in a pre-medical test and he got through. No doubt there were concerns against such practice, but then their legitimacy is again a moot point.
Here the question is that of a girl who has done quite well in the exam. and medical profession should have been much discriminatory (thinking from the perspective of the champions of so called propriety), than management where you are taught to ... well, whatever. . Let me also answer Asif's mail and request people not to get deluded by such mendacious claims as, "we don't find suitable candidates." Let us read suitable as sighted. The suitability criteria is one of the oldest ploy and very suitable for these institutions. The Reservation should be considered literally and applied properly. Out of 1200 seats 12 should be "reserved" for the visually challenged. Reserved means that no one else should get admissions on those seats. If no visually challenged available, "no suitable candidate" as they put it, then those seats should be kept vacant under the law. Once that thing is clear to them, all the candidates will be suitable. In all such institutes like IIM there are seats reserved for Foreign students and in their case "suitability" does not matter much, as also in the case of quota seats. What matters is money. Let me also add that just because some visually challenged candidates were accepted in a particular institute in the past, does not mean that the acceptability level will not go down. The policy have changed with the managements. And as the reservation for OBC's is strictly imposed, there will be reduction everywhere in the acceptability of the differently abled. The managements will definitely like to have control on some seats. Visually challenged being the softest targets, they will be the worst sufferers. The organizations must get ready for the battles to come. There is another cause for concern. The Supreme Court has always maintained that the reservation cannot cross 50% limit. After the reservation for OBC's becomes applicable, how is the government going to reconcile with this problem is anybody's guess. (on this particular matter, those with legal knowledge might correct me). Coming to an earlier mail by Subramani. IIm Bangalore, like many other institutes, might be under an illusion that 3 % seats should be reserved for differently abled. They perhaps need to be told how the reservation is distributed among various categories. And always remember, first seat goes to visually challenged. Now if you read the PWD act, it would seem to be applicable only to the jobs not in the institutes of higher/lower learning, but the court has made it clear that it also applies to the latter case. Another thing. Do file a complaint in the office of commissioner of disabilities. But do not trust the office too much for action. It will neet to be done at individual level. The commission is a toothless body. Moreover, in the past we have found from a former employee of the commission that the current commisioner is not favorable to the blind. The latest example to prove my point is a case where I myself and Mr. Nikhil Jain, Sambhavana president, had a long and not so friendly argument with the commissioner on his ruling on case we filed in the office. Our interpretation of the PWD act happened to be different from his. I told him on his face that we are not satisfied and we will go to court. Some of the individuals pooled in resources and did go to court, won the case. As far as I remember the court also passed strictures against the commission, even though we did not make commission a party to the case. coming now to Vaishnavi's case. She, and whoever talks on her behalf, must talk tough, file in a complaint in the commissioner of disabilities office, also write to HRD ministry. Read the PWD act and related cases properly, ask for information under the RTI act. Tell them repeatedly that 12 seats are reserved only and only for visually challenged. And first reserved seat belongs to the visually challenged no matter what the IIM and its apologists think, she must get the admission. All the best ----- Original Message ----- From: "srmittal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI] girl needs help > dear madam. > There is no question of surpassing the meritorious candidates. When a > seatr > is reserved for a particular catagory of student the aspirants of that > catagory has got highest marks which are 10 percent less no body can do > anything the candidate under the reserved catagory has to get the admition > even if he is surpassing 15000 meritorious candidates simply because the > seat is reserved for a particular catagory and he is the in that catagory. > Rgds Mittal. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] girl needs help > > >> The point that we need to consider here is that even if the cut off score >> for reservation candidates is slightly lower than the general cut off >> score, >> it cannot possibly be ten percentile less. This would mean bypassing a >> huge >> number (about 15000) of general merit candidates, and the institute may >> not >> wish to do this. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Anjali Arora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "srmittal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 9:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] girl needs help >> >> >> there are a couple of things/ principles that apply to this case: >> 1. when the admission is on merit, then reservation is given on the >> basis >> of the merit list; >> so if there are other blind, with higher pc, they will have preference >> over >> her for filling reserved seats. >> >> 2. there still is the ambiguity as to the cut off for reserved >> categories. >> while for SC St the cut off is lesser than the general candidates. but >> for >> PH no such uniformity is evidenced except for traditional courses/ >> professions or those which are known widely to the community in their >> subjective wisdom as most suitable for blind. >> in cases of new areas like IAS and other services, it has come to happen >> only because of strong lobbying. in unattended fields it continues to be >> implemented in their own wisdom/ discretion. >> >> apply these principles to her case and evaluate her chances in this >> background. >> Hope this was not too legalistic and confusing. >> >> Anjali >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "srmittal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 07:40 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] girl needs help >> >> >>>I feel that the court may take cognizence of the fact that the cout off >>> point for visually impaired candidates can not be the same as that of >>> the >>> nondisabled candidates. If, the cut off point has to be the same then >>> there >>> is no meaning of any reservation. >>> Rgds Mittal. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:20 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] girl needs help >>> >>> >>>> Hi Rajesh and others, >>>> >>>> The cut off score to get into IIM Bangalore this year is 99 percentile. >>>> Reservation or no reservation, >>>> I am afraid she does not stand a chance. >>>> Moving the courts would therefore not serve any purpose. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 3:14 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] girl needs help >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, no less than a writ petition in high court would help! >>>> >>>> I do not know the cut-off score in CAT for admissions for IIM >>>> bangalore, >>>> but >>>> question of reserved seats does not arise when a candidate qualifies in >>>> general merit list and 89. something percent marks are not every tom >>>> dic >>>> and >>>> harry can get in CAT, right? >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:31 PM >>>> Subject: [AI] girl needs help >>>> >>>> >>>>> (I forgot to change the subject in my last mail. Sorry for that. >>>>> Here's >>>>> the message with the changed subject line) >>>>> >>>>> Folks: >>>>> >>>>> Today, I received the information that Vaishnavi, a visually >>>>> challenged >>>>> girl, who has secured 89.5 pc in her CAT examination was denied >>>>> admission in IIM-Bangalore. The reason for rejecting her application >>>>> was >>>>> apparently the quota for VI were filled up. >>>>> >>>>> It seems the IIM has 1200 seats and if the 3pc reservations for the >>>>> PWD's and 1 pc reservation for the VI are applied, there should have >>>>> been 12 seats allotted for VI candidates. The IIM is apparently not >>>>> transparent about the status of these seats, apart from telling these >>>>> seats are filled, there is no information about the criteria applied >>>>> to >>>>> fill them. I was told that even the IIM's website is very dodgy about >>>>> this. >>>>> >>>>> So, I would like to find out how this girl can be helped? As you all >>>>> know time is running out and something needs to be done immediately. >>>>> >>>>> Your suggestions are welcomed. I would appreciate if the MBA graduates >>>>> of our group could help this girl. >>>>> >>>>> Regarding IIM, will it help moving the CCPD in the matter and ask the >>>>> commissioner to demand transparency in information on reserved seats? >>>>> Pl >>>>> let me know. >>>>> >>>>> Subramani >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of firoz >>>>> pathan >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 11:47 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Configuring script files >>>>> >>>>> hello moderator >>>>> i am doing same way as you mention for winam script >>>>> but when i open jss file it prompt which programm i have to select to >>>>> open >>>>> even on pressing controll s also winem script do not read >>>>> please help me >>>>> thanks >>>>> firoz >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:50 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Configuring script files >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Fayaz, >>>>>> >>>>>> The answer really depends on what version of Jaws you are using. 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