Fully agree, no single screen reader can fulfill all of our needs.
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From: "Vikas Kapoor" <[email protected]>
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the disabled." <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 09:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator as a screen reader come of age
Even in the Android OS, there are certain things which talkback is not
able to perform while the same tasks are very well handled by Shine Plus,
another very good screen reader for Android platform. Even I am also of
the opinion that we should keep multiple screen readers handy, be it
Windows or Android, to be able to cope with different types of challenges.
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From: Kotian, H P
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concerning the disabled.
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator as a screen reader come of age
Hi Prashant
It was certainly Microsoft did not have technical challenges to make a
good screen reader. I suppose because of IOS and Android, Microsoft got a
realization, they could not hold it any more.
To my understanding, they gave space for assistive technology companies
to grow and compete. Now as it stands today all have withered away and
this may be another factor for MS to reenter into this space.
As I see narrator today, I think, MS will take narrator in full steam.
The mood and inclination seems poised to provide 3rd party support. In my
opinion computer training centres should onboard this development to make
their course relevant and contextual.
I would not really call it a set back to NVDA development. One can't have
only one screen reader as a solution. There are occasions where one screen
reader out performs another. It should be users choice where and when he
chooses to use which screen reader. This can only be done when the choices
are inherently rich enough in features and capabilities.
I would consider it regressive if training centres do not make aware and
provide suitable training even when screen reader is sufficiently capable.
Although screen reader development is a tricky business, there should not
be a forced cost to it. Accessibility should be inherently available to
use the platform.
Harish.
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Prashant Ranjan Verma
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:34 AM
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concerning the disabled.' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator as a screen reader come of age
Yes, Narrator has really improved by leaps and bounds. But I would still
not recommend anyone to switch to it given that NVDA is also available
free of cost.
It needs to be seen if Microsoft continues to develop Narrator and more
importantly if they put resources in supporting third party applications
and develop advanced screen reader features. Also it needs to be seen if
Microsoft allows users to customize it and build add-ons for different
needs.
If they continue to develop it over the next one or two years then I
think NVDA usage will get a big setback.
For now the super users can keep testing and evaluating it.
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Harish Kotian
Sent: 10 June 2018 10:59
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Subject: [AI] Narrator as a screen reader come of age
Hi All
Narrator has really taken off ultimately in the latest update on Win10.
I would urge all the computer training centers to focus on narrator as a
screen reader.
There are plenty of enhancements as a result of which it is now
possible to switch to it as a primary screen reader. Although the key
combinations are not intuitive one will have to invest sometime on it.
To check if you are running the latest build of Win10, Run narrator and
type the combination of caps+ a, a few times. If it keeps increasing the
verbosity level, this can be a easy test. The old build had only two
states as a toggle.
A very unique feature which is new is that it can now describe any image
using artificial intelligence.
Harish
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