I understand your frustration with transitioning to macOS, especially after growing up using Windows. It’s important to recognize that macOS and Windows are two fundamentally different platforms, each with its own learning curve. While Windows may feel more familiar, I assure you that macOS is also fully accessible, but its usability takes some time to adapt to—just like learning any new system. Learning to navigate macOS with VoiceOver might seem challenging at first, but once you get the hang of it, you’ll likely find it very efficient and enjoyable. From my own experience of using macOS for decades, I can say that after getting accustomed to its layout and unique features, many users never look back to Windows.
On Fri, 4 Oct 2024, 15:52 pavan kallem, <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Anil, > I've seen your message regarding seeking opinions on MacBook > accessibility for visually impaired users. Below are my responses to each > of your questions: > 1. > You asked: Is VoiceOver inbuilt and how user-friendly is it compared to > JAWS? > Believe me, JAWS and NVDA are far easier to use and simpler to navigate, > especially since you are already familiar with them. Using NVDA and JAWS > provides a much smoother experience for browsing in any browser, while > VoiceOver is more challenging to use outside of Safari. > 2. > You asked: What are the pros and cons of using VoiceOver on a Mac? > While there may be several pros, the cons heavily outweigh them. VoiceOver > is pretty exclusive to Apple products and browsers, making it far less > useful with other browsers. Trust me, you’ll face extreme difficulties even > with basic tasks that you can easily manage with other screen readers. > 3. > You said: How seamless is the experience of working on applications > commonly used for day-to-day tasks (email, web browsing, document editing, > etc.)? > Honestly, the experience is not at all as smooth as with other screen > reading software. How do I know this? I own a MacBook, and I regret having > it. My excitement about owning an Apple Mac has completely faded away. > Note: This feedback is only in regard to the MacBook. The iPhone, however, > is top-tier in terms of accessibility. > Regards, > Kallem Pavan, > A completely disappointed Mac user. > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 3:26 PM sagar Verma <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> You can try the following link to join. Actually, I had to reset the link >> because of some obvious reasons. This is the newly generated link for those >> individuals who are willing to join. >> >> https://chat.whatsapp.com/HxtmT7igiAyJFQJZYP3WUS >> >> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024, 12:33 Yogesh Gupta, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Sagar, >>> >>> I am trying to join your group but unable to do so. I Would request if >>> you can send an invite directly on my Mobile No: 8349501117. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Yogesh Gupta >>> >>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 at 20:07, sagar Verma <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "Hi everyone, I am sharing the link to the Mac Accessibility Group that >>>> Gaurav and I have just formed for the visually impaired community. This >>>> group is intended to discuss macOS and its features, running alongside >>>> Apple Accessibility. Feel free to add your friends and join the group." >>>> . >>>> https://chat.whatsapp.com/ CYPdYPedAfr10cNs9sjLhx >>>> Regards, Sagar. >>>> conversation-footer >>>> initial-load-signal >>>> Mac Accessibility group on whatsapp Add label >>>> Add star >>>> sagar Verma >>>> 21 Sept >>>> Show contact information for sagar Verma >>>> to AccessIndia: >>>> Add emoji reaction >>>> Reply >>>> More options >>>> Attach file >>>> Reply >>>> Reply >>>> Forward >>>> Add emoji reaction >>>> Navigate up >>>> Delete >>>> Mark as unread >>>> More options >>>> Mail, More than 99 new notifications >>>> Meet >>>> >>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024, 16:21 Anil Kumar, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I hope this message finds you well. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps this may have discussed many time in the list. Sorry for >>>>> asking again. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I’m currently using a Windows laptop with JAWS as my screen reader >>>>> software, but I’m considering migrating to an Apple MacBook. Before making >>>>> the switch, I would love to hear from those of you who have experience >>>>> using a MacBook, particularly regarding accessibility for visually >>>>> impaired >>>>> users. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Some of the specific points I’d like to know about are: >>>>> >>>>> - Is VoiceOver inbuilt and how user-friendly is it compared to JAWS? >>>>> >>>>> - What are the pros and cons of using VoiceOver on a Mac? >>>>> >>>>> - How seamless is the experience of working on applications commonly >>>>> used for day-to-day works (email, web browsing, document editing, etc.)? >>>>> >>>>> - Any insights into accessibility? >>>>> >>>>> - Overall, do you find it easy to navigate and productive in your >>>>> daily tasks with Mac’s accessibility features? >>>>> >>>>> - Any model suggestion under 80K? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any advice or shared experiences would be highly appreciated as I >>>>> weigh the decision of migrating to Apple’s ecosystem. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Looking forward to your feedback. 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