I agree with Sagar. If one has time to come out of comfort zone, Mac OS is quite accessible platform too. Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula, CPWA (2018), DHS Trusted Tester Website <http://www.srinivasu.org> | LinkedIn Profile <http://linkedin.com/in/srinivasuc> | Follow me on Twitter <http://twitter.com/csrinivasu> Director of Product Accessibility, Freshworks, Inc <https://www.freshworks.com> On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 7:43 AM sagar Verma <[email protected]> wrote: > I understand your frustration with transitioning to macOS, especially > after growing up using Windows. It’s important to recognize that macOS and > Windows are two fundamentally different platforms, each with its own > learning curve. While Windows may feel more familiar, I assure you that > macOS is also fully accessible, but its usability takes some time to adapt > to—just like learning any new system. > Learning to navigate macOS with VoiceOver might seem challenging at first, > but once you get the hang of it, you’ll likely find it very efficient and > enjoyable. From my own experience of using macOS for decades, I can say > that after getting accustomed to its layout and unique features, many users > never look back to Windows. > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2024, 15:52 pavan kallem, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Anil, >> I've seen your message regarding seeking opinions on MacBook >> accessibility for visually impaired users. Below are my responses to each >> of your questions: >> 1. >> You asked: Is VoiceOver inbuilt and how user-friendly is it compared to >> JAWS? >> Believe me, JAWS and NVDA are far easier to use and simpler to navigate, >> especially since you are already familiar with them. Using NVDA and JAWS >> provides a much smoother experience for browsing in any browser, while >> VoiceOver is more challenging to use outside of Safari. >> 2. >> You asked: What are the pros and cons of using VoiceOver on a Mac? >> While there may be several pros, the cons heavily outweigh them. >> VoiceOver is pretty exclusive to Apple products and browsers, making it far >> less useful with other browsers. Trust me, you’ll face extreme difficulties >> even with basic tasks that you can easily manage with other screen readers. >> 3. >> You said: How seamless is the experience of working on applications >> commonly used for day-to-day tasks (email, web browsing, document editing, >> etc.)? >> Honestly, the experience is not at all as smooth as with other screen >> reading software. How do I know this? I own a MacBook, and I regret having >> it. My excitement about owning an Apple Mac has completely faded away. >> Note: This feedback is only in regard to the MacBook. The iPhone, >> however, is top-tier in terms of accessibility. >> Regards, >> Kallem Pavan, >> A completely disappointed Mac user. >> >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 3:26 PM sagar Verma <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> You can try the following link to join. Actually, I had to reset the >>> link because of some obvious reasons. This is the newly generated link for >>> those individuals who are willing to join. >>> >>> https://chat.whatsapp.com/HxtmT7igiAyJFQJZYP3WUS >>> >>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024, 12:33 Yogesh Gupta, <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Sagar, >>>> >>>> I am trying to join your group but unable to do so. I Would request if >>>> you can send an invite directly on my Mobile No: 8349501117. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Yogesh Gupta >>>> >>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 at 20:07, sagar Verma <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Hi everyone, I am sharing the link to the Mac Accessibility Group >>>>> that Gaurav and I have just formed for the visually impaired community. >>>>> This group is intended to discuss macOS and its features, running >>>>> alongside >>>>> Apple Accessibility. Feel free to add your friends and join the group." >>>>> . >>>>> https://chat.whatsapp.com/ CYPdYPedAfr10cNs9sjLhx >>>>> Regards, Sagar. >>>>> conversation-footer >>>>> initial-load-signal >>>>> Mac Accessibility group on whatsapp Add label >>>>> Add star >>>>> sagar Verma >>>>> 21 Sept >>>>> Show contact information for sagar Verma >>>>> to AccessIndia: >>>>> Add emoji reaction >>>>> Reply >>>>> More options >>>>> Attach file >>>>> Reply >>>>> Reply >>>>> Forward >>>>> Add emoji reaction >>>>> Navigate up >>>>> Delete >>>>> Mark as unread >>>>> More options >>>>> Mail, More than 99 new notifications >>>>> Meet >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024, 16:21 Anil Kumar, <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope this message finds you well. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps this may have discussed many time in the list. Sorry for >>>>>> asking again. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m currently using a Windows laptop with JAWS as my screen reader >>>>>> software, but I’m considering migrating to an Apple MacBook. Before >>>>>> making >>>>>> the switch, I would love to hear from those of you who have experience >>>>>> using a MacBook, particularly regarding accessibility for visually >>>>>> impaired >>>>>> users. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Some of the specific points I’d like to know about are: >>>>>> >>>>>> - Is VoiceOver inbuilt and how user-friendly is it compared to JAWS? >>>>>> >>>>>> - What are the pros and cons of using VoiceOver on a Mac? >>>>>> >>>>>> - How seamless is the experience of working on applications commonly >>>>>> used for day-to-day works (email, web browsing, document editing, etc.)? >>>>>> >>>>>> - Any insights into accessibility? >>>>>> >>>>>> - Overall, do you find it easy to navigate and productive in your >>>>>> daily tasks with Mac’s accessibility features? >>>>>> >>>>>> - Any model suggestion under 80K? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Any advice or shared experiences would be highly appreciated as I >>>>>> weigh the decision of migrating to Apple’s ecosystem. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking forward to your feedback. 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