Hi Mahesh,

As per guidelines pertaining to witness, it is not necessary for VI to bring
in a witness. Even a Bank official other than paying cashier can sign as
witness. this is applicable only in case of cash withdrawls.   I think book
of instruction of every bank states it clearly.

Regards,



----- Original Message -----
From: "Mahesh Panicker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] facilities given by punjab national bank
tovisuallyimpaired persons


> technicaly its a one time activity. however my experience with PNB
suggests
> otherwise. each time I needed to withdraw money, they needed someone to
> witness it. it really is a trouble for the VC person. in fact, it was this
> problem that really forced me into a 6 month long struggle with the bank
for
> an ATM card.
>
> On 7/30/08, Harish Kotian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > Witness is required at the time of submission of documents. This is a
one
> > time activity for that loan.
> >
> > I think this is ok.
> > Harish.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mahesh Panicker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] facilities given by punjab national bank to
> > visuallyimpaired persons
> >
> >
> > >I am afraid this means that the same kind of dificulties that are
> > > particularly associated with PNB is to be continued in a different
way.
> > the
> > > procedure for issuing ATMs remains rather complex and long, and the
idea
> > of
> > > the witness can be used to trouble a visually challenged person as has
> > been
> > > happening more often than not.
> > >
> > > On 7/29/08, kishanlal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> PUNJAB NATIONAL BANK
> > >>
> > >> RETAIL BANKING DIVISION
> > >>
> > >> HO: 5, SANSAD MARG, NEW DELHI
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> TEL: 23715042, 23716186.
> > >>
> > >> FAX Nos.- 011-23719092, 23359308
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>            RBD ADV CIR. 30/08
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>            I
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> > >>
> > RBD
Dated:
> > >> 03.07.2008
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> TO ALL OFFICES
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> RETAIL BANKING DIVISION: ADVANCES: CIRCULAR NO: 30
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> RETAIL LOANS TO VISUALLY CHALLENGED PERSONS
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> RBI, vide Notification dated 4.6.2008, has, inter alia, advised to
> > ensure
> > >> that retail loans are invariably offered to the visually challenged
> > persons
> > >> without any discrimination.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2.       It may be noted that a blind person of sound mind is
competent
> > to
> > >> contract, as such there is no legal bar for granting of loans to
blind
> > >> persons.  All concerned are, therefore, advised to ensure that retail
> > loans
> > >> are not denied to the visually impaired persons.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 3.       As regards the procedure and precautions required to be
taken
> > for
> > >> execution of documents, it is advised that all documents to be
executed
> > by
> > >> the blind persons be witnessed by two witnesses.  A declaration be
> > obtained
> > >> from the witnesses to the effect that the documents have been read
over
> > and
> > >> understood by the blind person in their presence who after
understanding
> > the
> > >> consequences thereof has put his signature in their presence.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 4.       The other precautions as provided by the Bank for opening of
> > the
> > >> accounts by the blind persons be also taken care of.  In some of the
> > States,
> > >> documents evidencing creation of mortgage needs to be stamped. In
such
> > >> States, the mortgage deed can be got registered.   Further, where the
> > blind
> > >> person is conversant with Braille language, the documents in the said
> > >> language may be provided  to him/her (optional).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -2-
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 5.       All concerned are advised to note the above guidelines for
> > >> compliance.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> (SC BITHAL)
> > >>
> > >> DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> PUNJAB NATIONAL BANK
> > >>
> > >> ZONAL OFFICE: JAIPUR
> > >>
> > >> (INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 1.11.2007
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The Regional Manager/Senior Regional Manager,
> > >>
> > >> Regional Office/Integrated Zonal Office,
> > >>
> > >> Sriganganagar/Alwar/Bharatpur/Jodhpur/Jaipur.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Reg: Issuance of ATM/Debit Card to blind persons.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> HO: OP&SD vide their letter dated 29.10.2007 have decided as under:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ATM cards to visually challenged persons may be issued considering
the
> > >> merits of each applicant. In such cases, specific request with full
> > >> justification be sent to OPSD, Head Office, New Delhi for their
approval
> > for
> > >> issuance of card.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> You are requested to ensure strict compliance of the same at each CBB
> > >> centre under your jurisdiction.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> SD/-
> > >>
> > >> Deputy General Manager
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> CC: TheSeniorManager,Marketing/Inspection&Audit/Planning&Development
> > >> Department, Zonal Office, Jaipur for information and necessary action
in
> > the
> > >> matter at the point of need.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Deputy General Manager
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> With warm regards
> > >> Yours sincerely
> > >> Kishanlal Sharma
> > >> Mobile: 09413849638
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