It reminds me of my experience with the disabled coach during my visit last
year. My sister and I boarded a Coimbatore bound train at a small station
called Morappor. The coach was filled with general passengers except two who
were orthopedically challenged. As always we do, we insisted that they
facilitate us to occupy the seats, but without much success. When everything
failed, we eventually pulled the chain and the train came to the virtual
halt. Very interestingly, the coach was right next to the engine and still
no one came to enquire what had happened. So the train started after another
ten minutes or so. But of course why should we give it up right? I pulled
the chine again strongly and we never allowed the train to leave until the
guard came and attended the issue. My sister encountered another issue
around the same time within a few weeks. She was going to Salem to see one
of our cousin sisters. She boarded the disabled coach and the train was
about to leave. A guard came to coach and checked her certificate. She told
her that it was a disabled coach and she could not travel in that. She of
course did not give-up and phone me right then from the train. She refused
to leave the coach and rightly so and the guard did not have an option but
to leave her alone. Fortunately her friend's father works at the Coimbatore
division and he raised this issue in their board meeting. Up on their advice
we sent letters to Coimbatore station manager, and the director of the
southern railway division. We knew that telling the exact truth would not
actually draw their attention and henceforth manipulated the situation a bit
by stating that the guard actually threw her out of the train and took away
her ticket. It indeed worked and apparently I was told that he got
suspended. So that's the real situation and we do have to be proactive in
such situations.
Vetri.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ch. Srinivasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] railway-triple confusion!!!
In one of the trains (Udyan Express), Disabled Coach is given in between
Sleeper Coaches and I think this should be done for all the trains so that
it will be safe from the security point of view and also people get their
needs like food etc.
Right now, most of the trains having the coaches either at the end or at
the
beginning. I fully agree with Amit and in addition, I was told (though not
observed myself) that concerned authorities take bribe and put sighted
folks
in this coach.
Regards,
-----Original Message-----
From: Amit Bhatt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 4:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] railway-triple confusion!!!
Undoubtedly, Mr. Rajesh has raised a matter of great importance.
I can't say anything about date or exact incidence but I've heard that
there
was some mishappening occurred with a handicap woman in the handicap
coach.
No security person or guard was available in the coach in that moment and
finally when people reached their to rescue her life, the woman was no
more
alive . If this is a truth, then we should accept that extrication of
handicap coach from the other coaches of Train is the major cause of such
accident.
Beside this, the condition of handicap coach is always found pathetic. You
may observe many abled-bodied passengers sitting there and all the people
are laying down like animals in the coach!
Secondly, problem arises when you need tea or anything to eat. I don't
know
whether pantry people come to the handicap coach to serve the food and,
even
percolators from the out side cannot enter in the coach.
There are lot of problems confronted by the handicapped passengers in the
coach due to segregation. So, Handicap coach should also be
interconnected.
I have not had a long journey in handicap coach, but my experience for
couple of hours on two occasions was very bad.
That's why I wanted to put across these points as well.
Thanks,
Amit Bhatt
----- Original Message -----
From: "sandesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] railway-triple confusion!!!
It is indeed of great significance.
It did reach all inboxes (at least it did reach mine) but it's surprising
really that noone said anything about it. it will definitely create more
confusion or rather i would say it has already started.
A week or more ago, my wife was travelling in the same compartment and
one
OH person along his normal wife and small kid was literally begging for
their seats, which he said was reserved. On ticket, it was mentioned that
these are of berths 3 and 4 of S11 compartment. he tried to locate S11
but
the train did not have one. Eventually, he called ticket checker and he
said that this coach for handicapped itself is called S11 and 2 of these
berths are alotted to him. Other passengers fought with the checker and
finally it was decided that this couple with their child could sit in the
same compartment.
Bye and regards.
Sandesh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] railway-triple confusion!!!
Fellow accessindians!!!
I think I, in my earlier appended message on the topic, had raised an
issue of sufficient importance to merit at least a casual rejoinder or
two. However, I am amazed, to say the least, at the utter silence our
worthy brothren have chose to maintain over the state of affairs.
Pondering over the possible explanations for this fact, I am laid to
consider the possibilities like the earlier message failing to make it
to
various inboxes in general apart from my own, or else, I, in my endeavor
to convey the issue with precision, ventured beyond the linguistic
capacities of many of us, or thirdly, even though it pains me to think,
the issue was deemed to be of so little importance as not to merit the
effort to clutter the inboxes, or else, I am sadly and gravely mistaken
about the nature of things.
Anyway, the issue of HP quota being carved out of hitherto existing
general disabled coach and confusing it with ordinary as well as
reserved
disabled passengers along with unauthorized occupants and placing it in
a
disjointed manner, is still in my opinion an example of increasing trend
of non participative decisions about the disabled being taken supposedly
in their interests but casual in nature and actually disadvantageous to
them often.
Unlike AIR broadcasting cricket commentary for it is the most accessible
to visually impaired, over which we have poured dozens of mails and
about
which one of our respected friends promises to arouse honorable I & B
minister from the deep slumber which confronts him in a respectable
recuperation centre in our capital,
this issue practically inconveniences us and let us discus, decide and
drop a word about it to some authorities.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AI] railway-triple confusion!!!
Friends
A few days ago, in response to a news item about handicapped quota in
sleeper class of Indian railways being increased, I had expressed
apprehensions which unfortunately turned out to be worse than what I had
anticipated. In my face to face encounter with this increased
handicapped
quota of six, I found out to my utter horror, that the increase of four
berths comes from nowhere other than handicapped coach being attached at
the extremities of the wrack, which hitherto was a general coach for the
disabled.
Now, it has been recognized as a sleeper coach and four berths therein
may be reserved through reservation counters in HP quota.
Now, it adds to already prevailing chaos in such coaches. Firstly, its
use by all and sundry unreserved passengers is an unpreventable menace.
Secondly, in four berths reserved new avatar, we can not justly prevent
unreserved disabled passengers, thirdly jumbling up reserved and
unreserved passengers disabled or not, in the same coach, does not fit
in
any legal or non legal framework.
In fine, HP quota now is equivalent to traveling in unreserved disabled
coach.
And government surely deserves to take credit for enhancing reserved
handicapped quota.
Happy traveling in non interconnected disabled coach with all and
sundry.
I too with my little legal knowledge and a whiff of human psychology,
would not accept if anybody told in a miscellaneous coach that I have
reserved berths if anybody disabled with ordinary ticket is legally
permitted to travel as well.
I wonder who is thin thank of lalu?
let us try to convey such niceties to railways.!!!!!
There is ladies quota of about six berths in slipper and there is also
an
unreserved coach for ladies.
Same can be done for disabled by providing hp quota of two, four, or
more
berths in sleeper, and an unreserved coach called handicapped coach
without complicating the matters.
Regards
Rajesh
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