This is because military is powerful and if they make a noise you can hear the echo in the Parliament. Whereas if we make noise in front of the handicapped bogi we would likely be shunted out of the platform.
Subramani -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tushar Kansara Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach military has got full bogie for itself and they dont even open the door for generals On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:57 PM, surya narayana <[email protected]>wrote: > do you feel that the coach is enough for all these people along with > reservation? if all the two lower berths are reserved for handicapped, > then wat is the status of other general ticket holders let us take > thisssssssisue with railway minister and other officials. > > On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <[email protected]> wrote: > > amiyo > > > > if u had the reservation ticket with sl1 reservation > > it contains train number > > date > > > > and of course one needs certain communication skills to be able to have a > > constructive dialogue with the users of the compartment > > > > the lower berth generally gets occupied by seaters and sharers > > and then in the end it is used by the sleeper > > > > so reserved ones take upper berth or keep bag there > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Amiyo Biswas <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I traveled by handicapped couch from Howrah to Delhi by Poorva Express > in > >> March this year. My reservation was not confirmed and so I had to use > this > >> facility, in my fellow passengers' terms, at a loss. Anyway, what I > >> understood from the passengers and the RPF on Howrah station is that if > >> you > >> have a handicapped card and a ticket in any form, you can travel by this > >> couch. Escorts are also allowed in the same couch for the convenience of > >> the > >> handicapped passengers. I think, berths in this couch are not allotted > >> during reservation process. > >> > >> > >> With Best regards, > >> Amiyo Biswas. > >> Cell: 91-9433464329 > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "surya narayana" < > [email protected] > >> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:52 PM > >> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach > >> > >> > >> > >> hello friends, > >>> i requested all the guard and railway police force. but no use. > >>> because there was no chart on the compartment containing my > >>> reservation details. even if there's any chart, how can we ask the > >>> handicapped fellow men to vacate the seat? they too have the right to > >>> sit on the seats as well as other passingers. it is pity to note that > >>> it is totally irrelavant to make arrangements to reserve seats in > >>> disabled compartment. > >>> > >>> On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> the nearest person who can help u in handicapped coach is the train > >>>> guard > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:26 PM, surya narayana > >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello sir, > >>>>> I too have a immemorable and bitter experience with handicapped > coach. > >>>>> I was given reservation in that coach and could not find my berth > >>>>> until i reach visakhapattanam. if you want, i can provide all my > >>>>> experience. basically I am from andhrapradesh. > >>>>> > >>>>> On 5/19/10, Subramani L <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > Folks (particularly from those in Bangalore): > >>>>> > > >>>>> > I am specifically looking for at least one experience from > Bangalore > >>>>> > > > >>>>> in > >>>>> > order to take my report forward. Though I can mention experiences > of > >>>>> > > > >>>>> VIs > >>>>> > in other places, it is highly important to get it from those in > >>>>> > Bangalore as I have had a chance of speaking to the Divisional > >>>>> > Manager > >>>>> > of Railways who claims everything to be hunky-dory. Also, since my > >>>>> > newspaper is circulated in Bangalore I need to see if people here > >>>>> > have > >>>>> > had any specific bad experiences in the last three to six months. > > >>>>> Kindly > >>>>> > write abck to me. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Subramani > >>>>> > > >>>>> > -----Original Message----- > >>>>> > From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:[email protected]] > >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:31 PM > >>>>> > To: Subramani L > >>>>> > Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Dear Subramani, > >>>>> > Infact, > >>>>> > There is no railway staf officially. > >>>>> > We felt some railway people unoficially was sitting there. > >>>>> > A big mob had entered saying that this is a women coach. > >>>>> > But in that crowd there men also. > >>>>> > the noise was so much and we are two women could not able to shout. > >>>>> > There is no commection of this coach from other coach. > >>>>> > It was quite broad and both the side two long seats up and down. > >>>>> > In chinai they did not listen any thing. > >>>>> > In Bangalore i went to station master, > >>>>> > he said better you write to southern railway because i can not take > > > >>>>> any > >>>>> > action. > >>>>> > There is no pantry car and this will be the last coach no one come > >>>>> > there. > >>>>> > Toilet was also very broad but we never used because they > maid > >>>>> > very dirty. > >>>>> > But i receive a letter from railway authority saying we can > not > >>>>> > do any thing regarding coach because i have also given some > > >>>>> suggestions. > >>>>> > They have promised that they will send to concern authorty. > >>>>> > After that i did not follow up. > >>>>> > Madhu Singhal.----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> > From: Subramani L <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>>> > To: Madhu Singhal <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:41 PM > >>>>> > Subject: RE: regarding Handicapped coach > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Dear Madam: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > A few questions.... Did the authorities you had complained to > >>>>> > (in Chennai and in Bangalore) recognised that it was the > handicapped > >>>>> > coach? Or did you struggle explaining to them about the existence > of > >>>>> > > > >>>>> the > >>>>> > coach itself? > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Did you tell the people getting into the coach that it was > not > >>>>> > meant for the public and was a special coach for the handicapped > >>>>> > persons? > >>>>> > What was the reaction of the public when you explained to > them > >>>>> > about the purpose of the coach? Did anyone object or use > threatening > >>>>> > > > >>>>> or > >>>>> > abusive language when you did that? > >>>>> > Were any railway staff around for to sort out the confusion? > >>>>> > What was the condition of the coach? Was it broad enough for > >>>>> > people to walk freely? Was it connected with the rest of the > coaches? > >>>>> > Were pantry men allowed to sell food? > >>>>> > Who did you complain to in Bangalore? > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Rgards, > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Subramani > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > -----Original Message----- > >>>>> > From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:[email protected]] > >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:57 PM > >>>>> > To: Subramani L > >>>>> > Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Dear Subramani, > >>>>> > In 2007 january i was travelling to Chinaifrom Bangalore. > >>>>> > I booked my ticket along with friend in a c coach. > >>>>> > But it was in waiting list and did not confirmed. > >>>>> > Last moment we thaught okay we will try handicap coach. > >>>>> > We went and sat there. > >>>>> > It was empty only one disabled person was there. > >>>>> > We are very happy thinking can go comfortably. > >>>>> > After contonment one railway staf came and sat. > >>>>> > There was no TTI. > >>>>> > But after 15 minute later coach was ful and they were pushing > >>>>> > that disabled person. > >>>>> > After some time we can not even breathe. > >>>>> > Noone came to check the ticket. > >>>>> > After reaching Chinai i went and told to the station master. > >>>>> > He said you can complain after reaching Bangalore. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > After comming here i sent my ticket to the concern authority > >>>>> > and > >>>>> > they diduct the money and sent me the left over money. > >>>>> > I wrote a letter to the railway department about it. > >>>>> > I got an answer we will take action but nothing happened. > >>>>> > Madhu Singhal. > >>>>> > The train was Vrindavan express. > >>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> > From: Subramani L <mailto: > [email protected] > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > To: Madhu Singhal <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:21 PM > >>>>> > Subject: regarding Handicapped coach > >>>>> > > >>>>> > 2Dear Madam: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > I remember you mentioning to me once about the bad > >>>>> > experience you had in the handicapped coach. Kindly let me know if > >>>>> > you > >>>>> > can speak about it on the record. If you also know anyone in > >>>>> > Bangalore > >>>>> > who have similar experience kindly lt me know. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Subramani > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Email secured by TPML Electronics > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Email secured by TPML Electronics > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > To unsubscribe send a message to > >>>>> > [email protected] > >>>>> > the subject unsubscribe. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other > changes, > >>>>> please > >>>>> > visit the list home page at > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to > >>>>> [email protected] the subject unsubscribe. > >>>>> > >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > >>>>> please visit the list home page at > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> the subject unsubscribe. > >>>> > >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > >>>> please > >>>> visit the list home page at > >>>> > >>>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe send a message to > >>> [email protected] the subject unsubscribe. > >>> > >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > >>> please visit the list home page at > >>> > >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To unsubscribe send a message to > >> [email protected] the subject unsubscribe. > >> > >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > >> please visit the list home page at > >> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > >> > > > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] > > the subject unsubscribe. > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > > visit the list home page at > > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > > > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > To unsubscribe send a message to [email protected] with the subject unsubscribe. 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