Only once I have had a quarrel free journey in the coach reserved for disables. Regrettably, Even if you have a reservation, nobody cares a damn. If I am involved in a quarrel, the guards do not take the pains of interposing, though I only try to claim my right. I travel alone, and I know many of you also travel alone; this gives an advantage to others. I am bemused as to how to fight with this injustice. Asking for reservation in every coach would be too demanding because I do not think that that number of disables journey.
Regards Shadab Shadablucknow.blogspot.com On 5/22/10, Himanshu Sahu <[email protected]> wrote: > In my openion, if we would be able to force certain changes into > railway's system then problems can be avoided: > 1. General coach should be located to the middle of train with more > seats than existing. > 2. In every sleeper class compartment, there should be at least three > lower seats reserved for Physically disabled. > 3. reservation of birth should be completely removed from general > disabled coach. > > > > On 5/15/10, tkg <[email protected]> wrote: >> dear friends >> to solve the problem my oppinion is that handicapped coaches open for all >> handicapped persons with ordinary tickets. the handicapped quota is >> allowed in the other coaches. >> the organizations working in the field of handicapped wanted to use >> their >> pressure on the authority in this matter. >> best wishes >> >> gopi t k >> skipe id thiruvancherigopi >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "surya narayana" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach >> >> >>> they have uniform and other understanding with one another. so they >>> can understand who is their men. here we are disabled possibities are >>> less. moreover its hard to recognise the disability in short duration >>> of time before the train moves. >>> >>> On 5/21/10, Subramani L <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> This is because military is powerful and if they make a noise you can >>>> hear the echo in the Parliament. Whereas if we make noise in front of >>>> the handicapped bogi we would likely be shunted out of the platform. >>>> >>>> Subramani >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tushar >>>> Kansara >>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:26 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach >>>> >>>> military has got full bogie for itself and they dont even open the door >>>> for >>>> generals >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:57 PM, surya narayana >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> do you feel that the coach is enough for all these people along with >>>>> reservation? if all the two lower berths are reserved for handicapped, >>>>> then wat is the status of other general ticket holders let us take >>>>> thisssssssisue with railway minister and other officials. >>>>> >>>>> On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > amiyo >>>>> > >>>>> > if u had the reservation ticket with sl1 reservation >>>>> > it contains train number >>>>> > date >>>>> > >>>>> > and of course one needs certain communication skills to be able to >>>> have a >>>>> > constructive dialogue with the users of the compartment >>>>> > >>>>> > the lower berth generally gets occupied by seaters and sharers >>>>> > and then in the end it is used by the sleeper >>>>> > >>>>> > so reserved ones take upper berth or keep bag there >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Amiyo Biswas >>>> <[email protected] >>>>> >wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> Hello, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I traveled by handicapped couch from Howrah to Delhi by Poorva >>>> Express >>>>> in >>>>> >> March this year. My reservation was not confirmed and so I had to >>>> use >>>>> this >>>>> >> facility, in my fellow passengers' terms, at a loss. Anyway, what I >>>>> >> understood from the passengers and the RPF on Howrah station is >>>> that if >>>>> >> you >>>>> >> have a handicapped card and a ticket in any form, you can travel by >>>> this >>>>> >> couch. Escorts are also allowed in the same couch for the >>>> convenience of >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> handicapped passengers. I think, berths in this couch are not >>>> allotted >>>>> >> during reservation process. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> With Best regards, >>>>> >> Amiyo Biswas. >>>>> >> Cell: 91-9433464329 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "surya narayana" < >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:52 PM >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> hello friends, >>>>> >>> i requested all the guard and railway police force. but no use. >>>>> >>> because there was no chart on the compartment containing my >>>>> >>> reservation details. even if there's any chart, how can we ask the >>>>> >>> handicapped fellow men to vacate the seat? they too have the right >>>> to >>>>> >>> sit on the seats as well as other passingers. it is pity to note >>>> that >>>>> >>> it is totally irrelavant to make arrangements to reserve seats in >>>>> >>> disabled compartment. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> the nearest person who can help u in handicapped coach is the >>>> train >>>>> >>>> guard >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:26 PM, surya narayana >>>>> >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Hello sir, >>>>> >>>>> I too have a immemorable and bitter experience with handicapped >>>>> coach. >>>>> >>>>> I was given reservation in that coach and could not find my >>>> berth >>>>> >>>>> until i reach visakhapattanam. if you want, i can provide all my >>>>> >>>>> experience. basically I am from andhrapradesh. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 5/19/10, Subramani L <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Folks (particularly from those in Bangalore): >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > I am specifically looking for at least one experience from >>>>> Bangalore >>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> in >>>>> >>>>> > order to take my report forward. Though I can mention >>>> experiences >>>>> of >>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> VIs >>>>> >>>>> > in other places, it is highly important to get it from those >>>> in >>>>> >>>>> > Bangalore as I have had a chance of speaking to the Divisional >>>>> >>>>> > Manager >>>>> >>>>> > of Railways who claims everything to be hunky-dory. Also, >>>> since my >>>>> >>>>> > newspaper is circulated in Bangalore I need to see if people >>>> here >>>>> >>>>> > have >>>>> >>>>> > had any specific bad experiences in the last three to six >>>> months. > >>>>> >>>>> Kindly >>>>> >>>>> > write abck to me. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Subramani >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>> > From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:31 PM >>>>> >>>>> > To: Subramani L >>>>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Dear Subramani, >>>>> >>>>> > Infact, >>>>> >>>>> > There is no railway staf officially. >>>>> >>>>> > We felt some railway people unoficially was sitting there. >>>>> >>>>> > A big mob had entered saying that this is a women coach. >>>>> >>>>> > But in that crowd there men also. >>>>> >>>>> > the noise was so much and we are two women could not able to >>>> shout. >>>>> >>>>> > There is no commection of this coach from other coach. >>>>> >>>>> > It was quite broad and both the side two long seats up and >>>> down. >>>>> >>>>> > In chinai they did not listen any thing. >>>>> >>>>> > In Bangalore i went to station master, >>>>> >>>>> > he said better you write to southern railway because i can not >>>> take >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> any >>>>> >>>>> > action. >>>>> >>>>> > There is no pantry car and this will be the last coach no one >>>> come >>>>> >>>>> > there. >>>>> >>>>> > Toilet was also very broad but we never used because >>>> they >>>>> maid >>>>> >>>>> > very dirty. >>>>> >>>>> > But i receive a letter from railway authority saying we >>>> can >>>>> not >>>>> >>>>> > do any thing regarding coach because i have also given some > >>>>> >>>>> suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> > They have promised that they will send to concern >>>> authorty. >>>>> >>>>> > After that i did not follow up. >>>>> >>>>> > Madhu Singhal.----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>>>> > From: Subramani L <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> > To: Madhu Singhal <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:41 PM >>>>> >>>>> > Subject: RE: regarding Handicapped coach >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Dear Madam: >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > A few questions.... Did the authorities you had >>>> complained to >>>>> >>>>> > (in Chennai and in Bangalore) recognised that it was the >>>>> handicapped >>>>> >>>>> > coach? Or did you struggle explaining to them about the >>>> existence >>>>> of >>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> > coach itself? >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Did you tell the people getting into the coach that it >>>> was >>>>> not >>>>> >>>>> > meant for the public and was a special coach for the >>>> handicapped >>>>> >>>>> > persons? >>>>> >>>>> > What was the reaction of the public when you explained >>>> to >>>>> them >>>>> >>>>> > about the purpose of the coach? Did anyone object or use >>>>> threatening >>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> or >>>>> >>>>> > abusive language when you did that? >>>>> >>>>> > Were any railway staff around for to sort out the >>>> confusion? >>>>> >>>>> > What was the condition of the coach? Was it broad enough >>>> for >>>>> >>>>> > people to walk freely? Was it connected with the rest of the >>>>> coaches? >>>>> >>>>> > Were pantry men allowed to sell food? >>>>> >>>>> > Who did you complain to in Bangalore? >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Rgards, >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Subramani >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>> >>>>> > From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:57 PM >>>>> >>>>> > To: Subramani L >>>>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > Dear Subramani, >>>>> >>>>> > In 2007 january i was travelling to Chinaifrom >>>> Bangalore. >>>>> >>>>> > I booked my ticket along with friend in a c coach. >>>>> >>>>> > But it was in waiting list and did not confirmed. >>>>> >>>>> > Last moment we thaught okay we will try handicap coach. >>>>> >>>>> > We went and sat there. >>>>> >>>>> > It was empty only one disabled person was there. >>>>> >>>>> > We are very happy thinking can go comfortably. >>>>> >>>>> > After contonment one railway staf came and sat. >>>>> >>>>> > There was no TTI. >>>>> >>>>> > But after 15 minute later coach was ful and they were >>>> pushing >>>>> >>>>> > that disabled person. >>>>> >>>>> > After some time we can not even breathe. >>>>> >>>>> > Noone came to check the ticket. >>>>> >>>>> > After reaching Chinai i went and told to the station >>>> master. >>>>> >>>>> > He said you can complain after reaching Bangalore. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > After comming here i sent my ticket to the concern >>>> authority >>>>> >>>>> > and >>>>> >>>>> > they diduct the money and sent me the left over money. >>>>> >>>>> > I wrote a letter to the railway department about it. >>>>> >>>>> > I got an answer we will take action but nothing >>>> happened. >>>>> >>>>> > Madhu Singhal. >>>>> >>>>> > The train was Vrindavan express. >>>>> >>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>>>> > From: Subramani L <mailto: >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > To: Madhu Singhal >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:21 PM >>>>> >>>>> > Subject: regarding Handicapped coach >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > 2Dear Madam: >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> > I remember you mentioning to me once about the >>>> bad >>>>> >>>>> > experience you had in the handicapped coach. Kindly let me >>>> know if >>>>> >>>>> > you >>>>> >>>>> > can speak about it on the record. 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